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The Sizzle & The Boom
Ever wonder how America's birthday celebration became so explosive? This spontaneous Fourth of July special takes you on a firework-fueled journey through Independence Day traditions, surprising historical coincidences, and childhood memories that shape our national celebration.
Scott Powers and Keith Maki dive into the fascinating world of neighborhood firework displays, where some enthusiasts invest upwards of $10,000 for their backyard spectacles. They explore the origins of America's firework obsession, revealing how the tradition began in 1777 when Philadelphia first lit up its skies with explosives imported from China – a relationship that continues to this day.
The conversation takes unexpected turns through roller coaster adventures, presidential coincidences, and the perfect hamburger. Did you know three U.S. presidents died on July 4th, with Thomas Jefferson and John Adams passing just hours apart on the same day in 1826? Or that Americans collectively spend over $2.5 billion on Independence Day food alone? These fascinating tidbits emerge alongside personal anecdotes about smoke bombs, grilled delicacies, and the eternal debate over whether to watch fireworks from below or experience them from above.
Whether you're a fireworks enthusiast who coordinates neighborhood displays or someone who prefers to "shut the windows, turn the music up and wait till it's over," this episode captures the diverse ways Americans celebrate their independence. Join us for our regular programming next week and don't miss our upcoming crossover episode with Majors Mass Hall!
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On this episode of the Powers Point Podcast. We are talking about one thing the 4th of July, the smell of gunpowder in the air, the sizzling of food on the grill. So if you're ready, let's do this. Hey, me drop that patriotic beat ¶¶. Well, hello, hello. Welcome to the Powers Point Podcast. I'm your host, scott Powers, and if you're new to the show, welcome. We truly appreciate you tuning in and if you've been here before.
Speaker 1:Well, hey, welcome back. Now. For those just finding us, here's the deal. On this show, we talk about anything and everything, with the exception of two things no religion, no politics. If that's what you're looking for, well, there's over 5,000 podcasts just waiting to disappoint you, podcasts just waiting to disappoint you. Around here, we aim for one thing to give you a laugh or two, but never more than three, because any more than that, well, that's just showing off now, isn't it? Now, on today's episode, it's a little special and a little unexpected. It's our 4th of July Quick Shot Special, completely off the cuff, totally unplanned and fully fueled by grilled meat and last-minute decisions. Jim couldn't be here today. We didn't tell him this was happening. Of course, he's probably in bed right now, but I do have the one and only Keith Mackey with me. Keith, say hello to the fine people, Hello.
Speaker 2:USA, America.
Speaker 3:Happy Fourth of July everybody.
Speaker 1:That's right. We're keeping it loose today. Just two guys and a microphone, possibly surrounded by leftover fireworks and melted popsicles. If you're hearing background noise't worry, that's just the sound of freedom, or Keith trying to light a sparkler with a grill lighter.
Speaker 3:No, now is when they start.
Speaker 1:This time of night is when the biggest fireworks tend to start around here, since it's uh what is it close to midnight, something like that you know, around my house, man, they have now given people permission to light like fireworks for four days, like I used to love it as a kid. But now, thinking about all the money that was wasted and I you know one, one group, I'll have to take a picture of you this weekend to show you they swear up and down that, the city that I live in, st John. They don't have enough city fireworks, so they went and bought a whole ton of it. Dude, they have a flag so big it's draped over the house. Wow, like literally just draped like flat laying over the house, man, wow. So that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:And they had to spend upwards of about $5,000 to $10,000 just on, if not more, plus insurance. I'm sure they have to have to in case of any like those runaway fireworks that you see in videos blowing up people's cars and all that. So, like, what's a average? What's the average like to-do thing at your house?
Speaker 3:uh, shut the windows, turn the music up and wait till it's over. That's usually. That's usually it. I've never really been into fireworks, even as a kid. When we used to go down to the fireworks, I always felt like they were gonna fall on top of me. You know, yeah, yeah, I always, like always had this weird, you know nervous thing. I don't know if I told the story about where I felt like when I was in the basement and felt like the house was gonna fall on me and had to run up the stairs. I don't know if I told that on record or not.
Speaker 3:I know I did tell you in gym that story, though, but um, let everybody know um, there was a night here, when we first moved in, we'd uh, first moved into the basement and not to the like to the upstairs here which we are. I thought the basement would have been fine and turned out to not, you know, not necessarily be ideal. But uh, one night, possibly under the influence of of something or or maybe one or two things, uh, I just kept staring at the rafters and at some point I convinced myself that I thought the house was gonna crumble on top of me, and so I ran upstairs with my wife, still coincidentally and I just, I don't know, I had like a mini panic attack.
Speaker 1:Wow, wow, that's crazy man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we moved up here after that.
Speaker 1:For me, growing up, fourth of July was always chaos in the best way you got that one uncle who insists on doing his own fireworks show.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Even though he's missing two knuckles from the last one. You've got the folding lawn chairs that don't, uh, really hold people's weight unless you're a kid. Remember those trifold ones oh, yes, yeah, yeah you'd have to put like a plastic weird plastic that would like you.
Speaker 3:You would form, your skin would form to it and you got up and it would always have that like plastic fucking grid on your body.
Speaker 1:Yeah, your whole body would. For Aunt Margaret. She was a real heavy lady man. She looked like somebody rolled up a sausage man and wrapped the ropes around her because she still had the lines.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I also have an Aunt Margaret. Love you, aunt Margaret. I never mentioned you on a podcast before, but hopefully you'll be happy and actually listen to this one.
Speaker 1:we'll see now your podcast, famous um. And then you got the mosquito spray that somehow attracts more mosquitoes and the glorious smell of hot dogs that may or may not get cooked properly uh, what do you think about those like electronic mosquito repellers?
Speaker 3:do you know those work or not? They're like. I saw it last night. They're like 30 bucks.
Speaker 1:I wondered if those would work or not we got the the tennis racket mosquito okay or it's for like flies, just smack them yeah, but it usually becomes like a war in our house and people like smacking me with the to see how much the current is that doesn't surprise me so you sit there and you're eating, you get tacked on the shoulder and it feels like somebody taking like uh. Like if you were in track in high school and you got the cleats on and they're buying your shoes, like they're stepping on your uh yes, this thing I'd never saw before.
Speaker 3:It looks almost like one of those citronella candles.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And it says it's 100% guaranteed, which you know how that goes. But to get rid of mosquitoes and man, I would love to have something that I knew worked.
Speaker 1:I would get that in a second, because the little guy got stung, I think last week and he had like a little bump on his neck and just, oh, that bothered me, I'm sure, man, I mean you could try it out, you know, if it works, get another one right um, also just a word of warning through experience don't point roman candles at people. Uh, I've been hitting the neck, the face, teeth right on the teeth, man, because I was laughing like what happens if I didn't, if I was laughing and my mouth was open and that thing hit it.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean? Yeah, but uh, you, you, you kind of think it's funny when you're aiming it at them, you know, I'm just not at you never done that before, so I've never.
Speaker 3:You know, yeah, I can't. Even thing is I can't. I can think of one time that I ever lit off any fireworks and I believe it was. Uh, my brother was dating this girl from one of the from the um more wealthy town next to us and, uh, they invited us over for their fourth of july and, uh, you know, they were lighting up like fireworks, like that, and you know, everybody was like all the kids were like rushing, and I didn't, you know, I didn't know anybody, and I was like maybe, I don't know 12, 13, something like that at the time and I didn't know any of these other kids, and the one kid was like no, keith, and I never went and tried to light another one again.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. It's like well, I don't, you know, this isn't my house, I don't know any of these people, I've never met any of them. And it was like the second or third, I think they let me light one, and then it was like it was going to be my. It would you know what would have been my turn? And then the fucking kid who lived there like kind of snapped on me like that, and I was like all right, well, I'm not, I'm, I'm not playing this game, you know.
Speaker 3:So I believe that was the last time I've ever lit in any kind, of any type of fire.
Speaker 1:Like I used to like blowing up like action figures that, uh, that were on the wrong side of crime back in the day. You know, you know, like I used to have all kinds of things like uh, lay a brick on the lawnmower or it angles up and you just start chucking toys in the damn blades, right, and if they survived, they survived, which they never did. Uh, I'm sure the whole topsoil at my parents' house is plastic from He-Man. Don't tell Jim about He-Man, because that's his thing. With today being America's birthday, one fact, man over 250 million hot dogs are going to be consumed. Wow, like I love hot dogs, man. We've talked about it on so many shows and we're talking about possibly coming to Toledo to do a chili dog crawl instead of a pub crawl, something different, because I feel like drinking all day for a couple hours and getting in the car and driving home oh no, that wouldn't be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's not good and then I got a feeling jb would be a backseat driver. So, uh, I definitely I have to be on my my up and up man but what do you guys usually have on the grill?
Speaker 3:man, you know the works um, on the day, I guess my dad kind of wants to grill and I've said before my dad's hamburger that he makes is is the my favorite hamburger in the world and uh, I don't know how, I don't know how exactly he catches it. It's like even when you bite into him it looks like I don't know, it looks like it's almost undercooked, but it's just like it's at the perfect. He catches it right at that spot.
Speaker 2:So he usually makes those.
Speaker 3:And, uh, mom caught a deal on corn on the cob, so we have like a crazy amount of corn on the cob here. They like to do that. And of course we have some dogs and sometimes, uh, I like to, you know, do like the mushrooms and the foil, you know, I mean, even though I can't eat those anymore. And then, um, you know, potatoes, normal shit, I mean I guess I don't know, I can't think of nothing like two, you know, uh, like steaks, kind of a rarity in this house period, I don't know why, just nobody, I know my dad likes it, but you know, I don't know if I don't know it, just we don't, we don't have it all that often, but uh, you know, ribs are these burgers like pub burgers, like a thick burger?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Like we're like meatballs.
Speaker 3:They're like huge meatballs there, you know. You know, Eddie Murphy described the hamburger that his dad would make as a kid. It's basically that burger. It's just well. I guess it doesn't have the green onion and the green pepper and all that stuff in it. It's just a basic burger, but it's a good-sized burger. It's a workout for the jaw.
Speaker 1:All right. So when we come back from the commercial man, we're just going to jump in. I don't even know what we're jumping into, man, but we're jumping into something. So stay tuned, we'll be back after these messages.
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Speaker 1:Welcome back to the Independence Day special. If you're just tuning in right now, it's just me and Keith. This show is so thrown together and we didn't even give JB time to react. Of course, he's probably in bed sleeping at this time, which normal people should be, but I'm a night owl, keith's a night owl and, uh, we're hoping everybody listening to this has enjoyed their independence day and uh hope everybody has all 10 of their fingers and 10 of their toes, or those people that stick the bottle rockets in their rear end and they don't go nowhere.
Speaker 1:They stay there and blow up.
Speaker 3:Real fun guys, and if things work out, you know, friday night, to where none of us are busy at the moment and JB can record, then we can still record. We can just do what we were going to normally do.
Speaker 1:But if not, you got this show.
Speaker 3:Exactly, this is a what do you call it? Um supplemental.
Speaker 1:So we always have a backup plan. And thanks, thanks to Keith for reminding me. You know, like, what are we going to do. And then I've been thinking about it for the last few days and I don't want to take anybody away from their family on a holiday, so might as well try this and see how it works. But before we go further, man, I got some facts about Independence Day for you, man, if you care to listen here. But America was technically born on July 2nd. The Continental Congress actually voted for independence on July 2nd 1776. But the declaration wasn't adopted until the 4th.
Speaker 1:And we like round numbers and fireworks. So here we are. See, I appreciate that because, man, I I hate odd numbers, dude, I. It's made like people drivers they could throw me odd numbers for times that they check in and all that. And I always round up, like you know, and like I said before, when I see something online that I, like you know, like a post or something, and then, if I know that I'll be the odd number, I wait for somebody else to click it, and then I come in behind those, like it's really weird. I don't know if that's a phobia. I, I have no clue, man.
Speaker 3:I just, it's just a quirk, you know. I mean, everybody got them. So what I'm curious about is uh, were there fireworks in 1776? Well, china's been around a long time, so, uh, I'm just not sure if there were, you know, a person in the know would be like yeah, of course there was. Well, I don't. I myself don't know, you know, I mean that's a good question.
Speaker 3:So if we have any historians out there, uh, who might know that answer, yeah, I mean I'm curious how the tradition you know got how it got put with this particular holiday. You know. I mean because it's not like every holiday has fireworks connected to it you know.
Speaker 1:Speaking of fireworks man, the one thing on my bucket list that I've always wanted to do is to be in, like a helicopter, above the fireworks, because I want to see what it looks like from up above, because I imagine flying in a plane traveling somewhere on the fourth of july it would look amazing.
Speaker 3:You know like I want to see it from that perspective what about like top of a ferris wheel, like here at cedar point? They have that, not here, but I mean in a couple towns over at cedar point they have that huge ferris wheel and at night, at night, they're probably. That would probably be a good excuse me.
Speaker 1:That would probably be a good spot to be in, would be at cedar point they gotta you know they go all out I would love to see it over the peak of the explosions. I don't know why I'm like raising my hands. Talk on my hands. It's not like anybody's ever going to see this video.
Speaker 3:No, you're an Express's guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe, man, maybe it'll be a TikTok thing, I don't know man, that would be a cool spot to be on a Ferris wheel. Yeah, as long as it didn't go in the car and blow up while you're in a damn thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the car and and blow up while you're in a damn thing. Yeah see, I've heard, uh, someone tell me that they were at the peak of them. Do you know? Do you know the magnum, the roller? Coaster force 2000 yeah, that, as they told me that they were at right at the top of the hill about to go down when the fireworks went off at the magnum and they said that was like one of the peak. You know cool things that they had ever experienced.
Speaker 1:I actually was there the first month that that opened and wrote it. I thought it was the craziest thing. It was the magna force 2000, and then the other one, uh, that came in right behind that uh, is it like the mean streak? Maybe something like that possibly, you know, like when you first walk into Cedar Lake, you got the blue streak or the roller coaster that actually was transported there from.
Speaker 1:They used to have an amusement park in Illinois, like damn near downtown. It used to be called Riverside. I never got to experience that because it was gone long before I grew up or was born, but they transported that to now the sandusky wow, yeah, I do that now that's.
Speaker 1:That's pretty cool and I think they said that the very first roller coaster is still open. Uh, that ever made in the uS in Coney Island? Oh, okay, and I think I would do it, man. Like they didn't have brakes back then, man, so like, of course, you're not dropping down like you are nowadays. You know, you're going to go right off the damn curve, man.
Speaker 3:See, I was under the impression that, because, see, I don't know if I should tell the story because there's a drug reference in it. Is that okay or no?
Speaker 3:yeah, go ahead man okay, we had gone to cedar point maybe 10, 15, I guess it was more than that closer to 20 years ago, and I had assumed because I had ridden out, uh, intense acid trips in my in teens, early 20s, that a roller coaster wasn't going to be a big deal. It is so different of a thing. So the first coaster that I went on is one called the Gemini, which before the Magnum was the top dog, you know. And so that was the first coaster. They, they took me on and I was my brother's like well, if you're gonna, if you're gonna ride the big ones, you might as well start with this one. They only.
Speaker 3:You know, if you don't like this one, you're not gonna like the other ones, which, to be honest, to his credit, he was right. Um, but man, that thing felt like it ripped me in half and I could not. I could not stand it. So maybe it's not, maybe for taller dudes or something like that, but that was so uncomfortable of an experience I could imagine man being on a roller coaster like tripping balls.
Speaker 3:Dude it just no, I meant I thought because it's like, oh well, there's been times when, when you know it got a little too intense on an acid trip, you know, in my, my youth, where I thought, you know, I've spent hours until I felt, okay, it's like this roller coaster rides what. In two minutes I can get through two minutes you know that's, that's more or less.
Speaker 3:What I equated to was the time, not necessarily the intensity or the experience. You know what I mean, but it was like that first hill, when it's that tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Oh man, that was just like.
Speaker 1:Oh, I knew I was in for it there's a uh a roller coaster in indiana called indiana b or the. The name of the place is indiana beach and one of their first roller coasters is called the hurricane. It's a wooden roller coaster, it's been up forever and it's just got a lap bar on it.
Speaker 1:No, because you're not going upside down or anything wow me and me and lynn marie we were riding in the front of the car because we like being in front. The back's the worst, that's where you're getting whipped around, man, yeah. But you know like we ride with our hands up and everything. And uh, she raised her hand up and I, when I went to raise my hand, the lap bar was coming up too and I'm like, oh, dude, so I'm like putting all my weight and she's like, come on, scaredy ass, get your, uh, get your hands up and I go the bar. You know, because they have those little hills enough to give you a little g-force and I'm not trying to fall a couple stories to my untimely death man and hitting the landing on somebody, but holy, hey. So this just in to answer your question. Just a little bit ago Okay, ai is always listening, man on my phone it said fireworks were first used to celebrate the 4th in 1777. One year later, philadelphia lit up the sky and probably half a barn using fireworks imported from china.
Speaker 3:Some things never change well, there, there it goes, and that's you know. If it started even with the first year, that's, that's tradition enough, because it would have been the first anniversary. So that answers that question.
Speaker 1:We all learned something said, americans spend over 2.5 billion dollars on 4th of July food Just that day alone 2.5 billion. I can see that it's a billion with a B for the people that are hard of hearing. Mostly for hot dogs, burgers, chips and that one salad no one eats.
Speaker 3:Yeah, my dad was under the impression that anybody in the house besides him ate those salads, but he likes them. You know what else he likes? Um, let me just talk a shit about him. You know what else that motherfucker does like? No, but you know those? Um, you ever see those pfefferness and cookies, them archway cookies that they're? They're like they got like powdered sugar around the white of them but the inside of them tastes like black licorice or something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, all those are disgusting man but he loves those you, you. I think that I don't mind black licorice, yeah, I almost said I like the anus taste. Yeah, yeah, yeah so, but it's the powder sugar. It's everywhere. Man, it's like glitter on a stripper, you can't cover it up, you know not that, uh, I'm saying people with glitter on are out there cheating on their wives, you know when they come home in the morning full of glitter, right well in some cases.
Speaker 3:I used to work at fedex and, uh, I've seen glitter bombs explode on people there. And there was one dude who was like uh, because I was new and they were doing like our meetings and whatnot. And this guy just had one of those happen to him and he's trying to run this meeting when he's covered in glitter and I can't stop laughing and I can tell he's getting mad at me but it's like I don't know, I just can't. There's probably 30 people in the room but for whatever reason, I just cannot control myself and stop laughing and he keeps looking at me because he's covered in whatever he's like. You know what's wrong with you. And I says, man, good luck convincing your wife when you go home that she wasn't at the strip club. You know what I mean. He says you better not have any ones in your pocket when you get home.
Speaker 3:And then people start to laugh, but it's like oh man.
Speaker 1:It's like get rid of them all.
Speaker 3:Man, Right, I guess that happens quite a bit there, that people send them that kind of shit.
Speaker 1:I can imagine, I can imagine. So another fact, man, is the Liberty Bell hasn't been rung since 1846. Oh wow.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 1:It was tapped 13 times for the original colonies and hasn't been rung since they didn't want to crack it worse.
Speaker 3:That makes sense. It makes big sense.
Speaker 1:Three US presidents have died. On July 4th. Thomas Jefferson and John Adams died hours apart, on July 4th 1826. What?
Speaker 3:same day. Yeah, hours apart from each other, yeah, oh shit.
Speaker 1:Wow, and then on the 50th anniversary, James Monroe died of July 4th 1831. So maybe don't schedule doctor's visits for that day.
Speaker 3:Wow, let's hope not. Well, I guess you could still. No, there's going to be some that don't give a shit, huh, right, right, visits for that day. Wow, let's hope not. Well now. Well, I guess you could still know there's, there's gonna be something that don't give a shit, huh right, right, uh.
Speaker 1:And then we got uh. The average firework travels at 150 miles an hour. That's faster than most people dive to drive to the store when they forget the buns. Yeah, and then uh, july 4th is the number one beer drinking holiday in america oh man even beats super bowl sunday america I believe it america drink some beer. There's a town in texas named liberty, and another in indiana, kentucky, missouri, and even a freedom in oklahoma.
Speaker 1:Sounds like a round trip waiting to happen, just bring the bug spray before we moved to this house, the street I lived on was freedom street yeah, I think that's how I've been choosing my cars lately, man, you know like I want my jeep patriot. You know like I want something kind of military, like they got a commander, a patriot, you know. And of course I can only afford what was just brought in at the auto auto uh place, but it's something I look forward to every year. You know, it gets a little frustrating when uh neighbors across the street light fireworks and the lands on your roof and still on fire yep you know, it's like we paid for that and this guy ain't gonna cover it because he's gonna say it wasn't me oh, of course.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so that's probably another as the day of the biggest casual lie.
Speaker 1:Huh, I didn't do that yeah, I didn't do that, man. It's like those people with the 144 shot saturns that that whistle and pop, whistle, pop. You know like.
Speaker 1:They're like non-stop bottle rockets so annoying you know, uh, I used to like the snaps that you throw on the ground and snap them okay, but then the paper blows all around and you can take them and pop them in your fingers and it don't hurt. But I think my favorite firework man are smoke bombs. Oh, yeah, yeah like the five-minute smoke bombs. So when the neighbors get pissed off, I just light one and let the air go towards their yard.
Speaker 3:It's a good cover-up. I've done mine in different ways, you know I mean, but I make my own smoke bombs around here, you know it's legal.
Speaker 1:Surprised you don't have one now I do, I just haven't.
Speaker 3:I just this is not lit. I don't know, I don't want to start coughing, you know, I mean I, sometimes I cough real bad yeah, yeah and that's and that's like with me. It'll be a while, you know, I I end up messing up the whole thing because I cough way too much. I try and keep talking while I'm coughing. Nothing I say makes sense.
Speaker 1:I think this is going to sound good when it comes out. I hope you guys listening enjoy it, Mo.
Speaker 3:it was great having you on buddy, you got to come back on.
Speaker 1:You know what, man? He said that we edited real good man, he was a little nervous at first because a lot of people always say they hate the sound of their voice. You know, like holy cow, if I had a dollar for every time I heard somebody say that, including myself, Right, you know, because I got that nasally Muppet, kermit, the Frog slash, big Bird. Of course, that's what Gavin always told me. And, speaking of Gavin, the news was announced that in a couple weeks, man, we're going to do a mega show between Powers Point Podcast and Majors Mass Hall. So I'm really looking forward to that Also. That's all I got right now. So that's going to do it For the quick 4th of July special.
Speaker 1:Whether you're lighting up the sky, stuffing your face with grilled goodness or just laying low With the AC cranked up to 11. We appreciate you spending a little slice Of your Independence Day day with us. And, uh, don't forget, we don't talk religion, no politics, just, uh, fireworks today. So we'll be back soon, Hopefully. Uh, another episode this week, or we'll definitely be back next week again with uh, what are you playing? And uh, I don't have a quote. Man, do you got a quote offhand that you can think of?
Speaker 3:Oh, america, fuck yeah, that's the one I know.
Speaker 1:America fuck yeah, man Good movie so from all of us here at the Powerspoint podcast. From all of us here at the Powerspoint podcast happy 4th of July and, as always, keep laughing, but more than three times. We don't need anybody pulling a muscle, so we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 3:Bye, see everybody. Happy 4th Thank you ©.
Speaker 2:Bf-watch TV 2021.
