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The Power's Point Podcast
From Ancient Tombs to Film Sets
Ever wondered what it’s like to transition from uncovering ancient artifacts to starring in films? Caroline Puzinas, our multi-talented guest, shares her incredible journey from a business program dropout to becoming an archaeologist and actor. Caroline's experiences working on archaeological sites like the Tomb of the Kings in Cyprus and Knossos in Crete are as captivating as her tales of navigating the film industry. This episode shines a light on her fascinating life, filled with historical digs, medieval studies, and balancing diverse careers.
Lynn Marie opens up about a transformative year filled with highs and lows, from a magical Disney trip to facing a medical emergency with her daughter. She also talks about the emotional roller coaster of losing friends and the sudden closure of her newspaper job. Plus, get a sneak peek into her new venture, the Made Aware Mom YouTube channel, where she chronicles her self-discovery and growth journey. This personal update adds a heartfelt layer to our episode, reminding us of the resilience it takes to keep moving forward.
We also touch on the enchanting world of castles, classic horror films, and nostalgic TV shows. From the eerie beauty of Dundurn Castle to the spine-chilling ambiance of "The Exorcist" and "Rosemary's Baby," our conversation meanders through history and pop culture, painting a vivid picture for our listeners. Caroline’s insights into the American Institute of Archaeology (AIA) and the cultural richness of archaeological digs offer a unique blend of education and inspiration, making this episode a treasure trove of stories and insights you won’t want to miss.
Thank you for joining us on today's show, as always, we appreciate each and every one of you! Talk to you soon.
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Well, hello, hello and welcome back to the Powers Point podcast. I'm Lynn Marie and here, as always, the one and only Scott Powers. Today we're talking with Caroline Pazinas, an actor, archaeologist and art designer. We're talking history, castles, prison tombs and more here in the P3 studio. So buckle in and get ready for another episode of the Powers Point podcast.
Speaker 3:I know you're going to dig this.
Speaker 2:This is what you have been waiting for. Are you ready? This is what you have been waiting for, and now we're starting the podcast in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Speaker 3:Well, hello, hello, welcome to the Powerspoint Podcast. How's that? Well, I'm reiterating it Season 5, episode 22,. Maybe 23 by the time this comes out. As you see, jim has took a family day off.
Speaker 1:What I am Jim.
Speaker 3:And we got back the one and only Lynn, you know, when Jim told me it was family day time for him and the family.
Speaker 1:Scott said well, it could be family day for us too.
Speaker 3:And here we are. It's been almost a year. Almost a year to the day. Jim's been with us for 40 episodes.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know. So we got a great guest coming on today and we've talked to her already how many times, you know, like I don't hide nothing on the show and I don't know if it was my internet. Yeah, let's just say it was my internet. Yeah, and it's just such a great sport, because the internet went out a few times and it kept cutting us off and making me have a heart attack, because I've been wanting to talk to Caroline for almost a year now.
Speaker 1:And I found you wanting to talk to her for like a whole day, so we just for the whole day. Yeah, when you said, like yesterday oh yeah, ok, I get it Get it. Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 3:So here we are, we talked to her and, wow, we could have probably talked, talked there for like a long time about each subject because, like you said, that, archaeologist, set director, set decorator, art, yeah, like and bartender.
Speaker 1:And bartender. I love that one out.
Speaker 3:Well, that's an important job. You get to learn about people.
Speaker 1:You do.
Speaker 3:So, which is kind of like being a therapist too, then right yeah, yeah, somebody to lean a shoulder on just paid up for the caesar drink. And for those that don't know caesar's, sorry, they're bloody berries, but it's canadian made oh, of course it's canadian yeah, so I could tell you why, but I won't even get into it because it's like the blood coming out of Caesar's back.
Speaker 3:No, no, it's because they don't use tomato juice, they use flamado, ew yeah, and like sometimes they use like horseradish to like spice it up and it looks like styrofoam.
Speaker 1:Here's my question what is wrong with you people? Why would you do that? That's disgusting.
Speaker 3:And they use dill pickles in there too, like pickle juice.
Speaker 1:Like whatever was left. They were just like a little bit of that.
Speaker 3:Right, right, and we don't have tomatoes really up here, so let's just throw in yamamata.
Speaker 1:Why wouldn't they have tomatoes? I think it's expensive. They can't grow tomatoes in Canada.
Speaker 3:That would be a rumor. But sorry, Canada, I didn't mean to start a rumor on you.
Speaker 1:Did you know inada they cannot grow tomatoes that's the p3 studio.
Speaker 3:Uh, uh, fact guide. So write that down. So, lynn, it's been a whole year since, uh, you've been on the show. What have you been up to? Everything, right? How many times you've been to disney? Once okay, okay we're going back.
Speaker 1:It could be eight days.
Speaker 3:You've been through a lot and as a family we've been through a lot. You know we talked about Caroline being airlifted with diabetes. That was actually a thing on the show. We spent like 15 minutes on it and how she beat me there 10 minutes and you were like right behind me, even though you started two hours behind me, and you were only like sure, 30 minutes I did. Yeah, it's like an hour. You're like the Dale Earnhardt of freaking I-65. I mean, which, we had every right.
Speaker 1:So yeah, that was insane. So that was February. February 2nd Airlifted my baby away. But hey, we still have her, so that's what's important. So we did Disney in January, airlifting in February, march and April. We had friends die each month. It's been a lot. So actually it was probably a good time to step away from the podcast because life had gotten intense.
Speaker 3:Life's been hectic and I lost my job. Jobs. Just the one oh okay, I was thinking about delivering all the papers.
Speaker 1:Oh, but that was all like wrapped up into it. Yeah, my newspaper that I was working for shut down.
Speaker 3:Without notice.
Speaker 1:Without warning. So our deadlines and stuff would be like the week before. We would go to print on on tuesdays tuesday morning, to deliver on wednesdays and monday evening. We got an email at like 7, 30, 9, 30 somewhere on there saying guess what, this is the last copy of the paper to ever come out and I was like, oh, that's cool so did you guys get a copy of the last paper to come out?
Speaker 1:I yeah, I mean it. No, I can't frame it, but you know what, honestly, I've been on like this whole like self-discovery, self-growth journey over the past year and I actually today launched my first video on my new youtube channel. It's called the Made Aware Mom because it's based off of, like my self-growth that I've been working on and, like they always say, if you want to do better, then you have to make the decision to do better, but you can't do better until you know better or until you've been made aware. So, just going to be sharing stuff about my journey and I started my own little content creation project. What's?
Speaker 3:the other one called Coronation creation. The one you said, mom aware.
Speaker 1:Oh, the made aware mom.
Speaker 3:Oh, I was going to say what about the made aware? Dad Sean started that one.
Speaker 1:He might, he should. We'll see how this one does.
Speaker 3:As can coin all the phrases.
Speaker 1:So I've been doing some content creation for some local businesses.
Speaker 3:You started your own little gig.
Speaker 1:Posting to their social media. I mean it hasn't replaced my income but honestly I'm like happier. I really like not working.
Speaker 3:Hope you're wild, don't hear this.
Speaker 1:My mother needs to retire. She does, she does, she needs to walk, she does.
Speaker 3:She needs to walk away and enjoy life.
Speaker 1:I actually wrote up her resignation letter, did you? I did, and I emailed it to her and I was like all you have to do is sign it and write the date whenever you're ready.
Speaker 3:A big F off.
Speaker 1:No, I did it very nicely.
Speaker 3:Okay, f off kindly Kindly.
Speaker 1:So it's weird, I kind of do miss the podcast.
Speaker 3:I was going to ask you about that.
Speaker 1:I thought you might.
Speaker 3:But we've been looking for a female to add into that, like that female perspective, because otherwise it's just sausage fest. It's just mine and Jim's view on singing you and Jim's sausages no, that was last show. The hot dog show. View on saying you and jim sausages no, that was not sure that. I thought sure too. No. So, like we, we've been looking for females. I've been talking to, like several who I thought were would be good, but they can't replace you, to be honestly you know, and I mean jim, can't even replace me, so does a good job at it, though just kidding jim, what was I look for?
Speaker 3:no, he's a good talker and, uh, sorry, you and you know, I was even like maybe I could just edit and produce it and let you and jim take over the show. And man, we can.
Speaker 1:Lots of guests you know what you would not like about that what's that? Jim and I have the same like time constraint concerns. We would sit down once a month, record four hours of content and then like not meet again for a month.
Speaker 3:And we've been doing it. So we've already this.
Speaker 1:That's what I wanted to do. If we could have done that, I would have stayed.
Speaker 3:We've been doing it, knocking out like a whole month of content. That's why we can't date anything.
Speaker 1:So you guys might not know this, but Scott is sexist and we looked up the definitions between what the difference is between misogynist and sexist. And he's not a misogynist because he doesn't hate women. But we got a new ring announcer at Backbreaker and like way to go big.
Speaker 3:Vince.
Speaker 1:Day one, scott was like so I would like you to record an intro for this. And I was like you, mother, I've been around for six years doing this, co-hosting the podcast. I never got asked to introduce anything. And then then I come here and he's like so Jim does the intro and I give him the last word of the show. And I was like you, mother.
Speaker 3:Well, you didn't ask Sexist. He just took it upon himself and he does good at it.
Speaker 1:Can Jim do this yeah?
Speaker 3:I'll make my little brother nine.
Speaker 1:Oh man, for a year, we're done doing that.
Speaker 3:So there you go. Look at Abe. He's like he can actually see what's going on back there.
Speaker 1:Oh, Abe-y baby.
Speaker 3:But no, we've been looking for a female, like well I have, because I need that female to have their perspective, not just two guys and hearing just our side of the story. So it makes sense.
Speaker 1:You have to be careful saying things like I've been looking for a female Like my mom will come down here and shank you To be a co-host.
Speaker 3:We record in the morning, we record at night, we record every Friday, you know well. Once Friday now, and then just let it all. Maybe you'd like to be on with us for our. July 27th or 29th, whatever that day is.
Speaker 1:I don't know I might be busy.
Speaker 3:We got your girl coming on, who Amy Jo, with Sarah Ashley, who was another country singer songwriter, and they sing a song called Brenda's Gotta Go and it's actually good. It's actually good. No, they're always good. You know what that? It's got like that old country twang sound to it. It's really it's good and I'll play it for you guys, like maybe a week before they come on. We always have good guests on here.
Speaker 1:I know and you need to have Tully Bertarelli on, get him on.
Speaker 3:You know, the hot dog winner this year was so-and-so Bertatelli from Chicago, and they're already calling him a cheater. And they said they said he switched plates. And I said how can you judge him? And I said how many judges? And then there's the front.
Speaker 1:So who.
Speaker 3:So those damn Bertatellis? No, we'll get him on. And he's a wrestler, he's an actor, he's a I'm sure he's a singer.
Speaker 1:Artist.
Speaker 3:He's an artist.
Speaker 1:I think he was in an air guitar championship too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, lately no, last couple weeks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, last month or so.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so in June, see, when I make a lot of episodes, I can't date anything, because then people are like, oh, you recorded this a long time ago, yeah, so, and they tell you. Yeah, they tell me.
Speaker 1:Well, don't do the people wrong Scott. No, so you Don't do the people wrong, scott.
Speaker 3:No so.
Speaker 1:You know, when I was around, it was weekly, it was weekly.
Speaker 3:And timely. I enjoyed it. Life came and got us busy.
Speaker 1:Caroline joined 4-H and we had to turn in all of her projects.
Speaker 3:What's the H?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 3:She's joined 4-H.
Speaker 1:She did. It's like to better your heart, your health, your community, all the things. It's really really cool. And so if you're in Lake County, indiana, if you go to the Lake County Fair, you can walk through the 4-H building and see she'll have nine projects on display. And then her 10th project is public speaking, which she's going to go compete at the state competition for next month. It's in like two weeks now. It's August 10th, 11th, somewhere like that. Yeah.
Speaker 3:So, hey, we're going to take a quick commercial break and when we come back we're going to have Caroline on with us.
Speaker 1:But not my Caroline.
Speaker 3:All right, caroline Pazinas, please forgive us if I say your name wrong. Forgive us if I say your name. When we come back, we're going to meet one of the most interesting people that's been on this show. Do you like metal music? Well, you need to listen to Mostly.
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Speaker 3:Joining us on the air right now again is an actor, a set director, an art director, a bartender, and she plays Alcatraz in one of my favorite TV shows. Pink is In, and she's also an archaeologist hey, I thought you forgot. Excavated all around the world, which is very amazing.
Speaker 3:So welcome to the show again thank you, good to be back again yeah, I, you should see the look in my face because, like before our first interview here and for those that are just tuning in, yeah, yeah, I recorded and power or something went out. And I looked at her because I was all nervous about this when I have new people on and I was like, oh, I hope things don't mess up, I hope things are gone.
Speaker 1:Because you put it out into the universe. Yeah, you can't. You've got to shut that down altogether. It's going gonna be great for being all your best friends. Sorry, hannah, vera and trish, but I work in film.
Speaker 2:We're used to things happening on sets.
Speaker 3:Don't worry, stuff happens with tech all the time yeah, see, like everybody from the pink is in cast that we've had on, which I think you're number 11 now and we've had something happen every single episode with everybody that's been on the show, which is weird.
Speaker 2:That's funny. It must be the prison show element.
Speaker 1:Prison. Wi-fi is not very good, it's the.
Speaker 3:Chatsworth curse.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is a fake background of trees. I'm really not outside.
Speaker 3:So I gotta ask you how did you go from archaeologist to actor, or actor to archaeologist, whatever you did first, well, yeah, it's a good question.
Speaker 2:When I was in high school I weirdly in grade 12, I won the History Award, so there was always a love of history behind me. I didn't think about archaeology in high school at all. I was always a bit of a creative person, but I took a lot of science too. I was quite fascinated with physics and math and what happened. I think it was just kind of a weird evolution, or rather I call it a diversion off the road. When I went to university I originally enrolled in business, of all things, commerce, and what happened is, after my first year I switched over to English literature. Medieval literature and anthropology was my minor, so that kind of was the link to anthropology and archaeology. But again, I wasn't thinking about grad school. I graduated, I had a loan. I had to start working Now. I had done theater in high school.
Speaker 2:My mom would not let me sign up with an agency when I was a kid and a teenager because she had understandably, with all the stories now, she had this aversion to children being on sets with grownups and strangers. So she said I can't be there for you. So when you're 18, I don't care what you do, you can go, do film extra work, go act. So when I was in high school I did sign up with an agent in Toronto. There were lots of them and it was for film extra work. That was it. When I graduated I got a principal agent and I think I pursued it as well as working a job for like maybe a year. And the addition process was so exhausting because everything back then was based in Toronto and I didn't live in Toronto so I had to constantly come to the city. So I would say I spent less than a decade working other jobs. I ended up working for a record store as a floor manager, because I was in music. I ordered stock. I just paid my loan off. That was my goal pay the loan off.
Speaker 2:I went overseas to teach English, but that year when I decided to do that, that was around 97. I also suddenly felt I'm going to go to grad school. I'm going to become an archaeologist, work in a museum. I need a steady job. I'll get a master's That'll do it. So I applied and I didn't have the strong enough background at that point, because I only get a master's That'll do it. So I applied and I didn't have the strong enough background at that point because I only had a minor. So they said come as a special student for a year or two, reapply, and that's what I did. So I became an archaeologist through U of T and I started going overseas. So that was that tangent.
Speaker 2:I didn't get back into film till about 2007 and it was through a crew position, and that was because I didn't get a job in a museum at that point and I was still working on digs. There was a little bit of money, but I kind of did a thing up in Peterborough for a museum but it was a real struggle and I saw this job in locations and I said, oh, I don't have that experience, but you know what, I need a job. And they hired me. So I started to do that. Around that time, I would say, I signed up again with an agent to start acting again. Yeah, probably about 2009, 2010. So that's a long-winded explanation of that kind of journey. You're listening to the Powers Point Podcast. I can't think of anything better to listen to. That's just me.
Speaker 3:Now, when you were overseas in places like Greece, cyprus, jordan you came in what was like your most significant site that you worked on.
Speaker 2:They were all kind of interesting in different ways. I'm actually a Bronze Age archaeologist, so it's quite old history. Classics was a minor. So when I was working over in places like Cyprus, I was working on a site out in Paphos called Tomb of the Kings, which is a Hellenistic site and you probably you know people don't realize that you know of the Hellenistic dynasty because they know Cleopatra, who was one of the most famous pharaohs of that time. So that was for me a little more. I've never except for Canada, ontario jobs in the summer here I've never worked on modern sites or what we call historical sites. So, like I've always done, bronze Age, 5,000 years ago, 6,000 years ago, a couple of thousand years ago, and then classics, of course. So I would say you know I worked out on Crete, the Minoans, knossos was one of the main sort of famous sites. Of course I did some survey work for them and that was quite remarkable to see what they were doing on the island.
Speaker 1:The Tomb of the Kings and yeah, that's crazy. So I'm going to interject because I'm so excited about this and I don't know. The last that I did was because, oh my gosh, my daughter a few years ago ago, she was in kindergarten and she became obsessed with egyptology and all right saying she was going to be an egyptologist, yeah, and so we would watch documentaries with my five-year-old about all of the different tombs. Yeah, it was so interesting and she's moved away from it now, but I just keep gently like pushing it back, like that's such a unique thing, but like all the things you're saying are triggering in my brain. That's so cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, you should tell your mom if she looks on there. It's through the American Institute of Archaeology, the AIA we call it, and they actually offer volunteer positions for people like yourself, maybe, or your mom, or anyone who would like to join a dig. There's usually a cost, of course, but you can see the postings. They usually come out around after Christmas, around December, january, for the next summer, and you can jump on a dig. It could be in Greece, it could be in Cyprus, because there's two components. Like when you have a dig, you have the field school component, which are going to be students. So those are archaeology students, and that is also.
Speaker 2:It's not just that you need more labor, but it's a way to train other archaeologists the future. So I've trained students in surveying and digging so that I came in myself, you know being trained. Trained students in surveying and digging so that I came in myself, you know being trained. So that's one component, and the other one is what we call the volunteer component, which is the general public. I want to go to Egypt, I want to go to Jordan, I want to go here. I really want to be Indiana Jones. How do I do that for a summer. So yeah, it's through the AIA you look up fieldwork opportunities and you can look under volunteer AIA you look up fieldwork opportunities and you can look under volunteer.
Speaker 1:I'll have to look because that's that's so neat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it is, it is, it's really quite. I find a lot of people you know they have the love of either art or antiques or history or museums. And Sydney, when I worked at Papos, that that was on a different site and it was really amazing. It was all these people from Australia. So for me, I've met so many people from other backgrounds, other countries. You had retired lawyers, military people, you had students, you had a whole mixed bag of people and you don't get that experience a lot if you're just working your job sort of locally right. So the great thing, archaeology for me was also one way to travel.
Speaker 2:I really wanted to see the world and I guess I've always had unorthodox jobs. That's kind of why maybe I was able to function in the world of film, because with the hours and the sort of unreliability of the work you really, yeah, I got like four part-time jobs in life. You know that I'm juggling and I think it doesn't suit everybody, but for those who do work in it, you've got to have something that's drawing you to it to keep you sort of dealing with the toughness of it too, you know, and there's great stuff about it, but it's definitely not if somebody says I want job stability, they might be better off becoming a lawyer, right?
Speaker 1:It sounds like you are a multi-passionate, which is my wheelhouse. I also identify as multi-passionate.
Speaker 2:I like that word. Yes, I've always had. I'm a funny person the way because I'm artistic. There's the creative side of me and I'm also scientific in terms of. I've always loved those subjects in school and archaeology involves a lot of science people. It's, it's you have to. It's a lot. You kind of got to learn your chronology. You got to learn to recognize your ceramics when you're digging, because your goal is you want to, you're you're trying to accurately date that site. So as you're digging up an artifact, you know. You know you know proper techniques, you know stratigraphy. You understand if something's you know basically intrusive or doesn't belong. But as you're digging up an untouched site, you know you want to eyeball that and say, hey, this, this pot, actually is not local, this doesn't belong here, this must have been shipped here from another place Mesopotamia, or this must have come from Egypt. So you're kind of you kind of learn as you do it, but it's a lot of research-based. And then in the lab it's a lot of science-based.
Speaker 1:So is it kind of like a very much hurry up and wait profession, because you want to hurry up and get to the site you want to start, but at least from the documentaries I've seen on TV it is kind of slow going because you have to be so careful.
Speaker 2:You don't know when you're going to find some. Yeah, that's the other thing. You are limited by money and time. So when you have six weeks or I've done surveys which we only had three weeks you know an average field school is going to run about six to eight weeks. I would say. So that time is precious because that's the time professors are out of school.
Speaker 2:In Canada it's the summer, so that's when they're all going to go and do their projects and people have a commitment. So you say, ok, I can give you two months, or you join a project for three weeks, but it's intense because you're going to start as soon as the sun's, before the sun comes up, and that's because of heat. No-transcript take all my stuff, my food and water and be picked up at the end of the day. So you are always sort of with logistics, working out what's the priority for the season. And as far as what you find, you have an idea, usually from surveys, especially when you're using a lot of the tech.
Speaker 2:Now, there is something in there, but it's a matter of do we have enough time, especially when you're using a lot of the tech? Now, there is something in there, but it's a matter of, do we have enough time? And you know, there are sites that have been excavated since the 1960s over in Israel. I mean there's Shechem, there's Gezer. These are sites that are just going on for decades. You just can't get it all out.
Speaker 3:After you do all that, you come back home to Canada. I don't know why I keep calling canada home for me, see, I wonder. But you come back to canada and you into the acting field, right, yeah, and how did you do shorts like the temp which you could see on youtube? Uh, you could see also her show, hamilton's Royal Highnesses, which I've dug into that too. And how did you meet up with Lisa Crawford and come up with the concept for Pink, is it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so Lisa, I met Lisa on on set. She literally was sent to. I carpooled with her and a friend of hers to get to Toronto for a. I remember it was a shoot in. It was winter, it was before Christmas, it was a bitter, cold day and we were just treated abominably the poor background and we bonded in misery I think I'm kidding, she was great. So you know, I think there had been mention of separate projects. I probably might've said I'd shoot some stuff for YouTube and I did shorts. I probably might have said I'd shoot some stuff for YouTube and I did shorts. I had a writing partner I'd met in writing class, so that kind of got mentioned.
Speaker 2:I think Lisa did a short or two on her own and what happened is again, we just ended up a year or two later booked on a show where she was playing a prison inmate. I was the guard and it was a comedy. It was a black comedy and it was a comedy. It was a black comedy and it was a really clever group of writers and actors who put this together. They used to be on a show another comedy show in CBC that's alluding Baroness Von Sketch. I believe it was one of the ladies from Baroness Von Sketch, which is a very clever show of sketch comedy if you haven't watched it. So essentially we had a blast and it was a great, great environment, good fun, and we were having lunch and Lisa said you know, I wanted to do always a prison comedy about women in prison. We should do something like that as a short or as a you know film something.
Speaker 2:And that was kind of the first mention of what to do and I think it might've been around fall November, october timeframe I remember it was before the pandemic, so it had to be 2019. And we agreed to do like a teaser, which was the trailer, the first trailer. We did the very first one when sort of started to hack out the idea, I think, of this wacky prison and the tone it would have. And then, of course, kim Lombard came on board, the writer, and we started to hash out that pilot, that first episode, but really was the teaser. We shot that just before Christmas, in December, and Trish was on that, of course, ellie Ray, so there were still most of those characters and actors were on board at that point and came on just to shoot it on a Saturday. We did it on a weekend. There was no money really. I think there was like lunch, bought pizza and stuff, and we were all actor, I believe. So we did it as a co-op, which, as a union member like same with Say, you can do your own shows you all agree to work together on it and, essentially, if you sell it down the road, you agree. Ok, yeah, you know, people get paid. So that's how it all started.
Speaker 2:Was this teaser? And then the pandemic happened and Lisa had already been talking to Bell 5, I think just before the pandemic, so it was getting ready to pitch it and send it out and and then the pandemic happened in March and we weren't sure what was going to happen at that point. So I think it was a very shocking but pleasant surprise when they reached out and said, ok, you know, do four episodes and do season one. It was kind of like, oh, thank God, we had something to work on during that, that bizarre time that also, I think, kept us sane, kept us focused and you know what I mean driven, and we used to meet in parks I'm laughing because I remember meeting Kim and aaron and in parks and everybody and you know, lisa, I think, and, um, her partner were out in the east coast at that point during the first start of the pandemic, so we were meeting cars and parks trying to because there was nowhere to go before pink is in happened I uh became friends with trish yeah yes, I always like support everything she's in.
Speaker 3:And when, when this show on, I thought it was like super amazing. And then I got a little upset because it wasn't in the States yet. Then Lisa sent me, yeah, a link to the episodes and I fell in love with it, you know Right. And then it went on Prime Video and amazon and and I I bought the whole season and then, and then she sent me the next season and I was like man, this is awesome, you know. And and then with all the casts that we've had on, we've had kim on, we've everybody clyde, sarah, can't tell he's not interested in the show or its creation at all.
Speaker 3:No, you specifically got your passport too. I did. When season four shoots, Lisa and Kim invited us up to come. You guys should season four whenever it ends, so weird.
Speaker 1:I'm ready, I'm legal, I can get there and back.
Speaker 3:You guys are all so amazing. I know I'm like really like sound like I'm putting it on, but I really do love this show and you know, like I told Lisa, it's like a breath of fresh air. It's original. The cast is great. I like the original script. Some really funny stuff in there. Lynn liked the part where trish is like when, uh, they leaned in and like sniffed and she's like what are you, joe?
Speaker 1:biden me, yeah like, that's my favorite part yeah, there's no swearing it.
Speaker 3:There's only one swear word in the three seasons out, and, and I think it comes out of Kim's mouth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you spell mouth.
Speaker 1:Is there any methodology that you use that's the same between, like your archaeology or, and even the art directing, because we haven't touched on that at all and then transferring that over to the set? So you mean?
Speaker 2:does my archaeology background kind of ever play a role in what I'm doing with um design. Well, listen, I would love. When I was a you know, when I was a kid, I loved raiders of lost ark. I think every archaeologist secretly does or openly does, and that's the big joke. So every, every male archaeologist wants to be indiana, right and um, so that that world.
Speaker 2:I've always been a sucker for films that are set in that world, whether it's the Mummy, whether it's whatever. I'd love to work on an epic film that was actually like, if they did another National Treasure, I'm there, I would love to be just crew on that, to hang around that world for a day or two. So it's funny, I think, my interest in history, and especially ancient history I touched upon a lot of through anthropology as well, a lot of mythology, a lot of belief systems that people had, whether it was about religion or life from what we know. And whenever I started in horror, my first sort of it was easier and cheap just to throw together a horror short. So my writing partner, megang Sule, who, if you look up my list of shorts, is the writer of you Don't Belong here and yeah, and so we were kind of looking at supernatural thrillers, that kind of genre, and I think it did play a role in a feature that I still still, 10 years later, working on with another writing partner, called the 36, and that is definitely a supernatural thriller, bringing in that background with archaeology, because one of the characters is an archaeologist. So I think that kind of I would you'd say that element that comes out in certain films, in comedy, and not so much it hasn't come out in any of the skits I've done with comedy, but it definitely did in my horror stuff. So it did transfer in terms of you know, could I do a horror set in a museum? Could I do a horror that had to do with an archaeology dig? And in fact I had written a short story. It wasn't a short film, but it was basically the Old Gods, I believe, was the title, and it was touching on again upon that world, kind of intersecting with the modern. So it really did resonate, I think, always in my mind. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2:As far as art direction that came because I did take art in high school, I took about four years of art, so I was always kind of interested in how things are presented in films in terms of tone, in terms of what are they going for with the sets. And Pink has a fabulous team with Natalie and Sabrina, who are I mean, it's a multitasking group. To be honest, when you're dealing with low budget, that's what happens, but they really got the vision. So when you say to them we want to have a retro look, they totally know how to nail that and that's why it looks the way it does. It was always this idea that it's modern time, but you would sometimes feel you were back in the 70. It was that I love for that sort of older British humor.
Speaker 2:In the 60s, 70s, there were shows like Are you being Served? Some Mothers Do have A Money. Python, right here we had Second City, which had a cast of super talented people that you all know have gone on to great things. So those those shows I used to watch on late night TV. Second City and you mentioned Scott, you saw Hamilton's Royal Highness. So that tone really is in a show like that, where it's that wackiness of almost I call it almost from improv sketch comedy at times.
Speaker 2:So yeah, yeah, so sorry I'm going off on a tangent, but for the art direction I would say definitely having that historical background of art and architecture. It's always there. But I've also I watched a lot of film. You know, growing up my mom would put the old films on Saturday night. I used to watch the classics and I remember thinking why do they look so great? And the lighting they were so superb with the lighting. They knew how to light actors, which is a really key thing. Superb with the lighting. They knew how to light actors, which is a really key thing. They knew how to use just light, simple sets or a street, just a scene in an alley or a street in a World War II thriller, to create something that was very evocative. And I think I just was drawn to that for design.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I could totally see that, because that's as soon as you started saying like the older films and the way they use light, you do like a black and white where they didn't have all the colors to tell you what was happening. You know somebody walking down a staircase, if it was a happy moment or a sad moment.
Speaker 3:Or even, like you said, horror movies like the Exorcist. You know when a priest is walking down a dark street, you know you got one street light and that adds such an effect to what's being seen. So that's really awesome that you are involved with like everything.
Speaker 1:Does your brain ever feel heavy?
Speaker 2:You know, when I sit, if I sit and have a coffee, I actually have to have. You know, it's funny like a lot of people end up working in film or doing any acting. I'm probably more of an introvert than an extrovert. I've learned to be an extrovert because I've had to always work with different teams, different people, and I used to be terrified of public speaking. I'm not so much anymore, I'm okay with it, but I couldn't speak in front of a crowd and so and so theater helped a lot with that and stuff. But yeah, no, I find when I do have time, like say I come here just to have a coffee, my brain just almost goes off. I just have to sit and not think, not create, and I just I take that time.
Speaker 2:I started in sports too when I was a kid, from about, I'd say, eight to 18. My mom had me in tennis. I did volleyball later, so I was always kind of drawn to movement, dance, whatever. I think that was my outlet for that excess energy. But no, I'm quite happy I go to Mad Naze. You know what my escape is? I will go to a movie and I enjoy my two hours. Eating food, being alone, no conversation, just that is my tuning out kind of time where I can just rest the brain. I've never been great at meditation I tried yoga and all that but I do know what I need in life in terms of disconnecting, because I'm working with so many groups of big people that I do need to have that space, whether it's going for a walk, whether it's even when I travel. I was never bothered going sightseeing on my own for a day. I would take off from the team and just jump on a bus and go somewhere, because I know I just need that decompression time.
Speaker 3:Being a movie person. What's your favorite all time movie that you could watch over and over again? Oh, that are new.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's an interesting question. I love the with the older films. You know what? I have a friend and when I visit her and her husband at their farm we always watch the, the old versions of the Saint with Roger Moore, and we watch the old Avenger episodes from the 60s. I love a lot of the. You know, I do love a lot of the Hitchcock. I have a great appreciation for his mastery of script and stuff. So I mean there's kind of there's not one. I do love the old Hammer Wars. I'm a sucker for the Hammer films, so I could easily watch the old mummies of Frankenstein. You know I never get tired of that.
Speaker 1:I mean, I could watch Brendan Fraser over and over again.
Speaker 2:I wish they would do a new one. I think it would be great if they could revive that and bring back. I guess it'd be a fourth film now. So yeah, I definitely think you mentioned the Exorcist. It's funny. I think I've seen it, thought once for sure I may have seen it twice.
Speaker 2:That is a very disturbing, as is Mary's baby, but you don't see anything. That is a very disturbing um, as is Mary's baby, but you don't see anything. And I think that's what's fascinating to me is how you can use um. You don't have to show gore all the time and you don't have to show the violence. It's the um, the sort of hinting at it using sound design, hinting at it using art, art direction and the actors. You need skilled actors for that. So yeah, so I would say you know there's a lot of great films and I mean I can enjoy really like funny, wacky comedy movies as well. That you know a lot of the sort of stuff from the 80s, 90s makes me laugh. It's just so silly, but it's great. It's sort of a nice light relief. I'm not really a movie snob, you know. I'm quite happy to watch anything.
Speaker 3:Nice, nice, nice.
Speaker 1:Now what about TV?
Speaker 2:What's a series that you would put on to lay in bed and fall asleep to. Well, I'm sort of yeah that's interesting.
Speaker 2:I still enjoy the X-Files. Oh, yes, yeah, I think, because it's funny doing a podcast. I always thought I, my friend's husband, had a radio show on Spectrum Radio, so Internet radio, free radio, and that was the kind of kind of conversations we would have. You know, I'd go up and visit and hours later we'd be talking about aliens, talking about this, and I think it was always. I've always had that open mind of what is out there, what, what's causing. Even looking at history there were things that didn't make sense.
Speaker 2:But you know, I had a very conventional education in terms of U of T as a very conservative kind of Ivy League university. It's like going to Yale or something You're not supposed to put your hands up and go. Let's talk about Atlantis. So it's funny. But my brain was always kind of looking beyond, saying there's got to be something else. And so I think the X-Files kind of sums that up, that sort of appeal to me, and also I think it was a great show, it was a fabulous show. I think so many shows wish they were the X-Files.
Speaker 1:So many shows should be more like the X-Files, because it was like the best show ever. It was a little sad I had the poster on my wall. Yeah, I believe, yeah, oh man, I used to sing the David Duchovny song. I've never seen it. I've never seen it. All right, oh, my goodness, wow.
Speaker 3:You got to watch it. You know what? I haven't seen it because I'd spend my time watching Canadian TV like Corner Gas, Trailer Park, Boys, Letterkenny yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 1:Okay, but this was like in the 90s. You couldn't even watch it when it was out in the 90s.
Speaker 3:No, I'm just learning about all this, like Degrassi, like I got a lot to catch up on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I think it's out there. I thought Tubi had it for a while for free. I thought the seasons were on Tubi.
Speaker 1:I own at least season one and the movie on Blu-ray. I will let you borrow. There you go being TV the cat. Oh my God. So now, when we first logged on the first time, did you think you're by a castle?
Speaker 2:I am, yeah, dunder Castle. This is a heritage building. This was from the 19th century, during the time we had the war with the states, so call it a castle it's sort of a manor, I guess technically it's not the British castle but it's Dundurn Castle, yeah, and it also has a military museum here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wonder, interesting about it being the War of 1812 is where we live. We're about an hour, no, two hours, outside of Lafayette, so and that was like where the war of 1812 like came through indiana specifically. That to be continued. And yes, yeah, scott pulled up a picture of your castle and it does look like a castle it looks like wayne manor it's beautiful, it's beautiful, it's a park as well as.
Speaker 2:So a lot of people bring their dogs here and come. This is where I like to. I live nearby, so that's the reason I don't I don't have to walk seven miles to get here, but I live literally across the street, not far, so I can. Yeah, I kind of you know, like if you're going to a Lord's estate or something, or like you said, wayne Manor and it was actually for another idea. That was years ago about a group of assassins that are invited to a dinner, so that was another.
Speaker 1:Up in like a Jane Austen era dress, just to take pictures. We could do that.
Speaker 2:Oh, people, come here for wedding photos all kinds. Oh yeah, could do that. Oh, people come here for wedding photos all kinds. Oh yeah, they do steampunk days here, we did. They do open houses, um, it is, uh, it is open for, of course, visitors and special events, like all the museums. They try to raise funds, right, but I know that steampunk day was here, uh, and everybody came dressed up. So, yeah, it's very, it's a really what they filmed here and understandably, they can't film indoors because it is it's trying to preserve that. It's the original furniture, the draper, it's beautiful. I mean, these are antiques, they're so fragile so you can't film inside. You can definitely do tours and at Christmas time they do like a Victorian Christmas, so they take you to the kitchen, the original kitchen, and they show you. They actually bake the cookies and stuff and you can get a sense of what it was like working there.
Speaker 1:We got it. Yeah, I'm like, I'm just like, okay, how soon can I get Sean and Caroline, my husband and my daughter? How soon can I get their passports? Because, yeah, like a mansion about an hour away from us and we went this past Christmas, they had all the trees up, so we dressed up like our family Christmas picture, like we're old money Look at us, that's beautiful.
Speaker 2:It's just got a really great vibe. I think maybe it's that part of me that you know likes to be around something that is historical and just feels good.
Speaker 3:Like it seems like within the last 10 years Hamilton has become, you know, like got Hollywood and a lot of acting and the things that were being shot was in Vancouver for Canada, but now Hamilton seems to be like taking the reins and a lot of things are being made in Hamilton, like the hands made, like there's so much stuff going on in that area.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hamilton was definitely always used in the past, now and then for certain locations, because it had a certain look. If you wanted to shoot something, you know, dystopian or futuristic, you always had the area down by the steel mills in the North End, right. So but it doesn't have. We have some small studios we do, and the plans had been from. A group of producers are running one of the studios here now. They want to build a modern soundstage, a modern, more larger soundstage, but then the pandemic hit and so the money. I'm not sure what's happening with that project. They're still running the other studio that's here. And we do have Hamilton Film Studios, digital Canary Studios. These are all venues for sometimes bigger films can go shoot a scene in there and that.
Speaker 2:But it's also tax credit. So every region, every city has its own tax credit. So there is a Ontario tax credit for productions and then you have a Hamilton tax credit. So there is a Ontario tax credit for productions and then you have a Hamilton tax credit. So, but we do, we in fact.
Speaker 2:Now I think I saw the other day there were maybe about I don't know three, four shows are here, but when I look on the Facebook for casting, when they're looking for background and stuff for work. There's seems to be a lot of stuff going on. You know it varies, like we were hit hard by the strikes so there was a bit of a lull with work, but I think that's kind of coming back slowly a little bit. But Handmaid's is coming back for its last season, I believe, starting in fall, and they probably will return. Yeah, so there is a journalist for the Hamilton Spectator, dan Nolan, and he usually does a column, if you ever look it up, what's filming kind of in Hamilton and he'll update you sort of. You know who was here, where were they filming that kind of thing.
Speaker 3:Caroline, we appreciate you taking the time to join us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, anytime.
Speaker 1:And, like we said, when season four kicks in, the peak is in we'll probably be up there and hopefully we get to meet you and I'll have to come with so that he doesn't just stay.
Speaker 2:I look forward to it and anytime, if you want to ever have me back on to talk about archaeology or whatever it's, it's all good for sure anytime we appreciate it and thank you for putting up with our struggles here oh good, have a good weekend. It was nice meeting both of you virtually and I hope to meet you in person soon and I'm sure Lisa and everybody would love to have you up here, definitely. Well, you know, she probably told you about the Comic-Con we're doing the Hamilton Comic-Con in September.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think I love the Comic-Con.
Speaker 3:Might have to check that out.
Speaker 1:I'm going to Disney in September. I don't know how many trips I can swing. I'm also unemployed, but Hamilton's a five-hour drive. You could maybe drive up for Hamilton.
Speaker 2:I probably could Ask Lisa for the details. I think it's September 21st or the Saturday Sunday.
Speaker 3:I drove up to Toronto for a day. I'm in five hours, there you go. That would be awesome, so all right, thank you very much.
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Speaker 3:All right, welcome back, great guest, all day, passionate. I mean, she does so much stuff and, like you asked her, does your brain get heavy? Because, holy cow, you've got to always be thinking, you know, like for everything that she's doing. You know, and she's a writer, like like you, but she writes for tv shows and again, you could check her out on youtube under the temp and uh, hamilton's royal highnesses, which is a pretty cool little show. You know what I noticed about canada?
Speaker 1:oh boy, what haven't you noticed about Canada?
Speaker 3:Like when they make stuff it's always shorts. It's nothing like me, like no two-hour.
Speaker 1:As a rule, or is that just like I?
Speaker 3:don't know. It seems like everybody you know, like our friend of the show, Hannah. Yeah, I love Hannah. She's made several shorts. She's getting ready to.
Speaker 1:I feel like shorts are how you like, break into the business kind of, and like it's, and I don't know for sure, but my assumption is that it costs less funding and it costs less time, so you're able to like, do it more quickly and get more material out.
Speaker 3:Do you know, in my head I keep thinking less is more material out. Do you know, in my head I keep thinking less is more. When Trish did the YouTube show my roommates at Escort, you know she did two seasons of it and the episodes were only like three to four minutes long. It doesn't ruin your tension, you know. So if you guys in Canada that are in the business, can somebody tell me like why that is? You know, is it like for what we're saying or is it for completely different?
Speaker 1:I think it's global. I don't think it's just Canada, though.
Speaker 3:Maybe it's just because people I think it's the business. So maybe we're going to get out of here. Lynn, do you got a quote for today, do I?
Speaker 1:Uh wait, I actually probably do, because I've been saving these quotes as I find them online.
Speaker 3:You know I used to give the quotes, but then I gave that away. Okay, are you ready? What's our quote for today, Lynn?
Speaker 1:I will never have this version of me again. Let me slow down and be with her, and I don't know if this is who said it, but it says Rupee car in the picture, so could be.
Speaker 3:That's pretty deep, isn't it? Car in the in the picture? So could be. That's pretty deep, isn't? Well, you can, even if you're a guy listening, you could take the her out and put a he, you know yeah but yeah, that's pretty deep it's.
Speaker 1:I think it's important to remember because a lot of times we don't give ourselves enough grace and we have a bad day and we think, wow, I'm a suck person, but like you're doing the best you can with what you have in that moment and just slow down and be with that person.
Speaker 3:I agree, I agree. So everybody that's listening to the show. As always, I appreciate you. I know Lynn appreciates you guys too, even though she ditched out on you guys, but please come back next time. We hope you enjoyed the show Again. Check, caroline Pazinas.
Speaker 1:That's P-u-z-i-n-a-s I spelled it phonetically for what I thought it sounded like, so you can't look at my paper oh, I wasn't looking.
Speaker 3:I typed it so much in the last three days, you know I like to do my research yes, you do, you're very thorough, so check her out. She's got a lot of stuff out there. Yeah, check out dumar castle, because, man, that's an awesome place. Look at you know it looks awesome. It does look awesome, so check her out. She's got a lot of stuff out there. Yeah, check out Dumar Castle, because, man, that's an awesome place. It looks awesome. It does look awesome, so I'll talk to you next week Until next year, yeah.
Speaker 3:Should be here next year. So that's all I got. Bye, yeah, dancing in the rain tonight. Dancing in the rain, we will start moving.
Speaker 1:We will start moving. Bye. Up beneath the city lights. Dancing in the rain tonight, heartbeats proving Dancing in the rain tonight. Sky opens up to fight. Bye. Dancing in the rain tonight. Raindrops fall like a kiss. Can't get better than this. Sky opens up to rain. Dancing in the rain tonight. I'm standing to see it in my eyes. Nice, hot beats moving, heartbeats moving. I'm used to reading the same lies People's hearts moving. Dancing in the rain tonight. Thank you, we won't stop moving. Dancing in the rain tonight, underneath the city lights, heartbeats grooving. Sky opens up to gray. Bye, I'm dancing in the rain tonight. Sky opens up to gray.
