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The Power's Point Podcast
AN 8 BIT VIDEO GAME SHOW
Strap in for a whirlwind tour of pixelated nostalgia and modern marvels, as my buddies Jim. Dave, Keith, and Gavin join me to reminisce about the victories and vexations in the ever-evolving world of video games. We're not just talking the rush of downing Bowser for the umpteenth time; we're digging into the trials of bygone arcade days, the fist-pumping triumphs of Red Dead Redemption 2, and the shared laughs as we uncover the quirks of the classics that define our digital battlegrounds. Whether you're a die-hard gamer or a casual player, there's a seat at our table for you to relive the glory and the gaffes that continue to shape our gaming lives.
Remember the time when blowing into a cartridge was more than just a quirky ritual—it was the gateway to another world? We sure do, as we chat about the emotional rollercoasters tethered to the likes of Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! and Skyrim's endless realms. Gavin's podcast 'Major's Mess Hall' serves up a slice of this gaming banquet, while Keith's wrestling video game characters remind us how our digital and creative worlds collide. You'll laugh, you might cry, and you'll certainly nod along as we share these tales of camaraderie and the odd neck injury from an intense Pac-Man session.
We wrap up with a peek into the crystal ball. As we swap war stories from the Captain Planet game on the Amiga 500 to the ghostly frustrations of Pac-Man, we ponder the future shaped by virtual reality and its potential to transport us to new, heart-pounding adventures. With a nod to Keith's creative endeavors and Gavin's diverse chat on 'Major's Mess Hall,' we're bridging generations and fostering connections that go beyond the screen. So, grab your joystick, hit play, and join our journey through the pixelated past and into the gaming galaxy of tomorrow.
Thank you for joining us on today's show, as always, we appreciate each and every one of you! Talk to you soon.
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On this episode of the Powers Point Podcast, we gathered the best panel of experts we could find. We discussed video games, ones we'd happy to beat and ones we were never able to beat. Hey Scott, give us a video game theme.
Speaker 2:Well, hello, hello, welcome to the Powers Point Podcast, season five, episode six. As Jim said in the beginning, this is the video game episode. So if you guys don't play video games, I hate to say it, but go check out the religious shows down the street. But with me right now, as always, is Jim. Hello, my panelists are from Edmonton. You got Dave. Who's this? This was his idea. So if you don't like it, you guys can all go right that place.
Speaker 2:As a co-boy would say, get the mounies From Toledo, ohio, or somewhere there close to it. We got returning back for the third time, keith. Third time's a charm. Hello, it's good to be back. And then, last but not least, one of my favorite people in the world I believe that or not and old co-host from the majors, musso. We got Gavin. How's it going? It's going guys. So, as Jim said, I gathered you guys because I consider you guys all experts. You guys like games, you know. I know Gavin used to be a diehard until kids came along, and then you do it. You do what you can Exactly Think kids. I used to play online a couple of games with Gavin. I know we used to play GTA 5 all the time.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, that's kind of like where our podcast started, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Like we would play that a lot and we'd be talking on the headsets and then we just decided let's just talk and not play the game anymore, and then I found out how quickly they turn on you and you got you're staring down the sniper barrel, or you know, I'm trying to watch Craig to see where he's at. And then you got Gavin with a big tank just plowing you down and killing you and thought we were all teammates there. And then, of course, keith makes his video game guys you just find him on Letter Kenny Wrestling on X and Letter Kenny's up man. So you got to work on these guys right here for the next game coming out next month, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 5:And I figure, with Letter Kenny just ending, we probably got one more go for the next one Right on, right on.
Speaker 2:And Dave, not sure what games you play. I know you do like nostalgia.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I like old retro games and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Right when you say retro, like how far are we going back?
Speaker 3:Well, I'll go back to our Atari, nintendo, all that stuff. It's still you know those were good times.
Speaker 2:And then with Jim I don't know how much gaming you play.
Speaker 1:This was hard because I played mainly sports games or wrestling, and I mean I played other like the popular games, but I never really could beat a lot of them. I would just play a little bit, then go to a sports game, because my cousins all played sports.
Speaker 2:In that I'll make this a little easier, Not only for, like, retro games, but back in the day when we were all younger kind of sound old, you know we had arcades, so you can even throw in arcade games there, because there's a few that we just kept unloading quarters in and never being able to beat. So then you found out how to steal from the machine and get free games. Well, I did anyway. So let's start this off with the good games. Just do one each and then we'll just go around the block here. Well, let's start out with Gav Gav, like what was a great game that you were like super happy that you beat.
Speaker 4:Probably the probably the latest one for me was Red Dead Redemption 2. I just I don't know if you guys have played that game, but the story is incredible and like I'm going to admit it right now, like when it, when it finished, I did tear up and it's the only game that's ever got me to tear up. Like it was just really emotional. Like you get you kind of just get attached to the characters, and I've actually completed that game three times now, like from the very start right till the end, and it's just, it's a joy. Every time you find new stuff out as well, every single time you play it.
Speaker 2:You know, I have to agree with that. As visuals it was amazing. I mean, the world map was like incredible. And then the story you spend hundreds of hours playing a game and then it comes to an end and you feel like a piece of you's gone, you know, and. And then the character you tear up and they're like, oh man, what do I do now?
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know there was just so much packed into it as well, like there's, like there's a ton of wildlife in it and this, like they call them, easter eggs. There's so many little Easter eggs throughout the game like that you'll just randomly see, like a crocodile pulling a pig into the water, which is not like something you see very often. I've only seen it once, and the three times I've completed it. It's just little things like that that you would never notice. But it's there, like. And then there's like if there's a dead animal and you leave it, when you come back to it, like a week later, it's got maggots on it and stuff and it's rotten Like it's little things that you can zoom in and see the maggots Like. It's like it's really cool.
Speaker 2:I love that game and they're in talks with number three right now. So, yeah, yeah, that will be, It'll probably come out after GTA six, which is slated for 2025.
Speaker 4:Supposed to be supposed to be next year. Yeah, yeah, well, she's going to be mind blown. How about you?
Speaker 5:Keith, my first one I'm going to go back to when I got my very first Nintendo, which I got because my brother had seen the movie Bloodsport. Do you remember that? Yeah, with John Claude Van Damme there's a part where he walks past the guy who played Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds and he's playing a game called Karate Champ. So he liked that so much and was into it so much that he went out and bought a Nintendo, because otherwise I may I don't know, I may not have gotten one otherwise. But and so we played that and I don't know if you remember they used to call it flipping a game, whereas you didn't actually, it didn't actually have an ending, but you played it to the point where it reverted back to the very beginning.
Speaker 5:Oh, okay, okay, so that would, that would be probably the first game I can remember ever beating, or you know, in this case was flipping that game. And yes, that would be, and it was just a fun one to play. And then you would, obviously you'd fight each other. It had the two guys in the guy, one guy in the white G1 and then was supposed to be red, but it was more kind of like a hot pink sort of G, but you win those. And then you would get like bonus rounds where they would send flying bases and in the arcade version they would send the bull charging at you, if you remember that at all.
Speaker 5:Oh, never made it that far oh wow, okay, yeah, that was, but that was one of my favorites, so that's where the old man's up on like the cliff and he's like fight, yes, right.
Speaker 2:And then you had to and the moves were basic, but it was still fun. It was still like one of the first button matchers.
Speaker 5:Absolutely and for a long time. It was the only game I had.
Speaker 2:And that I think that game was also a standup arcade as well. Yes, yes, it definitely was All right. Cool, cool. Yeah, that's a. That's definitely a classic. I think that game came out in like 83. No, not 83. About 86. And then Nintendo.
Speaker 5:Yes, 84 in the arcade and Bloodsport didn't come out to 88. So I wouldn't have got it until at least probably 88 or 89. But yeah, it's that in the arcade. Yeah, it's that in the arcade that it came out in 1984.
Speaker 2:Oh man, that's close.
Speaker 5:Very close.
Speaker 2:How about you, Dave? What do you? What do you? Got man for your first game.
Speaker 3:You know, honestly, the first game I was thinking about this, the first game I remember ever beating, is Super Mario Brothers, like the original NES Super Mario Brothers. That's impressive and I was so like, so happy when I beat it because, like my friend growing up, he was like some sort of whiz with that game. He could beat it in like I don't know, under 10 minutes, like he was incredibly good at it Right, and I suck at video games. So it's like it was such a huge accomplishment for me. And like World 8, when you get into like I think it's like 8.2 or 8.3 or something like that it's like crazy Things are coming at you after I was a crazy, like huge game for me to have beaten, where I wasn't really much of a video game at that point in time.
Speaker 2:You know, the crazy thing about that is is I played it and I can never beat it. And then you find out that you can, like walk on top of the levels. Yeah, you know, on top of the bricks or there was like secret elevator pipes that you could just go down and take you to a like bonus. And I never knew that until my buddy it just started zipping right through it. And those are the kind of people that you get upset about because you're putting all this time in and they just like, like I said, knock it out in 10 minutes.
Speaker 1:But that's how I beat a superman. Super Mario Brothers was one of mine is that I played it straight through the levels all the way and then with friends in school and stuff I found those in the books. I found those passages to get through in the warp zones and then once I started playing like that and then that's that's when I beat the game is I got to the final Bowser in that or and just beat them.
Speaker 2:And you guys are all happy that. I mean everybody here's played Super Mario Brothers. Yeah, did everybody beat?
Speaker 4:it or no. That's why I said it. That was when Dave said he completed it. That was impressive Because I see that was the thing with the older games as well. You couldn't save them. Yeah, like that and that's I think. That's why I mean for me anyway, like a lot of the ones I've got on my list for the not completed they're all older games because you couldn't save it and go. I'll just carry on tomorrow and eventually I'll get there, like you just couldn't do that. So that's why, if anyone completed any of those older games, it's always impressive that you actually were able to sit there for that long.
Speaker 1:And plus also, you didn't know if you didn't get the Nintendo magazine or you didn't have friends that knew. You just didn't know how to do stuff. You didn't have the internet or nothing, you just had to figure it out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and for the people listening that are like 20 or younger Nintendo, they used to have the Power Magazine and they would come out like once a month and there'd be like certain cheat codes in the back that would help you like or map through, and but, like Gavin, I'd never beat the game. So, like, that is impressive. Yeah, I didn't either. I'll see. Look at that. Yeah, all right, jim, what do you got for yours?
Speaker 1:My first game I beat was Mike Tyson's Punch Out. I was at. I played it all the way through at home and I got to Mike Tyson and I would get killed every time. And then, right after I don't know if it was, a friend told me about the code. That wasn't in my school. He told me about the code to Mike Tyson. It was 0073735963.
Speaker 1:And I went to me and my cousin and his brother was in Manchester College and down in Central Indiana and we went to visit him and stay for the weekend. We were in our team late middle teams or something late teams. We went and stayed at the college and there was that we were in the boys dorm and I stood, they had a Nintendo and we started playing Punch Out and I started getting like I put the code in and I started fighting Tyson. I couldn't beat him like two times. And and then everybody, like all of a sudden the whole dorm like came into his room and stuff and was like this kid's beating Mike Tyson, this kid's beating Mike Tyson. So the whole floor came and they were all like 50 people in the thing and they were all screaming and cheering. Like it was like you're really at a Tyson fight and I was playing it.
Speaker 1:And all of a sudden I got the pattern down and I beat Tyson and the whole place was like screaming. They were all drunk and stuff. They were just running around screaming and calling their friends and just it was like I was a freaking celebrity or something. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1:And then one thing I did was a code is that after I beat it I went back to school and I sold the code to people in the school. I had a piece of paper and I sold it and for about two days I made money selling the code, but by then, by the second day, everybody started passing the code around so I couldn't make any more money.
Speaker 4:That's awesome.
Speaker 2:Mike Tyson. That was pretty hard game. I mean, I used to get my ass handed to me when I first started playing. But then you find like patterns, you know, like Glass, joe and Regimpo, everybody had like a certain thing they did before they came up and hit you and you have Little Joe that was his name, right? Little George, little Mac, little Mac, that came. I've never beat that game either, so you guys just started rubbing this in In the background.
Speaker 1:you could see, like you could see somebody in the background, flash a camera, one of the pixel audience members or a certain time on the corner would tell the time and or flash and you would have to just pick up on those things like every playing it and playing it.
Speaker 5:I never knew that in the crowd Super Macho man would bounce his packs first.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What Glass Joe? He did like a, like a huge turn, wouldn't he? And then like three times he would. He would do like and they made it to a lot of doing it.
Speaker 1:When you fought Tyson, he would just go like Roy crazy and he would just like do uppercuts like this, like to where nobody else did it and it was beyond fast and it would. If one caught you.
Speaker 5:You were dead, right, you could catch him in the middle of it, though I thought yeah, it was.
Speaker 1:it was pretty insane.
Speaker 2:See, I'm actually going to memorize this because I'm going to go back and I'm going to beat these stupid games.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you could. You could put in the code for Tyson and just just keep practicing.
Speaker 2:You know it's the hardest thing, the hardest things about going back and playing old games is getting used to the controllers again because they don't feel right in your hands, especially like going off of Xbox, going back to like playing the one stick, atari and one button. You know it's like super hard. So my first game that I beat was the four player standup X-Men game. I think it's children of that Is that the children of the apocalypse, it's. It's the only X-Men four player game. But I used to dump quarters and then quarters and and I could have bought the damn machine. And then you finally find that one person who plays the game with you and plays a different character, because you could be like Dazzler, cyclops, wolverine, colossus, nightcrawler, and I think that's it. And then you find that one person Everybody wanted to be Wolverine. I liked Nightcrawler because he zipped around the screen all the time. But I felt really good when I finally beat that game, even though it was with the help of somebody else playing too. But I'm taking ownership on that one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, how much did that cost you to beat that game.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know, as a kid man, probably a couple hundred bucks. Wow, my dad's like, my dad's like, didn't I just give you a dollar 50? I'm like a dollar 50. Jesus, you know, in those games suck because there is no save and you're not taking it home. No, but now they make it a, they make the arcade stand up for the home now. So I'm thinking about buying it like 499 or 550 or something, and my friend has one of those I already get, does he?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, it's kind of cool. He's got like the Simpsons bowling. It's really neat actually, but he kind of like plays around it and I guess he's got like other games working on it too. Now it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:Oh, that would be cool yeah.
Speaker 1:If you look it up on Team Moon, maybe you could find it and buy all of us one.
Speaker 2:Those are smart asses with the team.
Speaker 5:I went from zero team who adds to team who adds, popping up every day now, hmm, you don't blame me on that that they're a good company.
Speaker 2:Uh, you know it's not. I'm not going to stray off. I almost went on a rant on team move, but I'll save that for another day. Grind your gears but yeah, that would go on. On what grounds my gears?
Speaker 4:No, we'll just do another episode and we could do it like top three great team who pages, and top three shit ones.
Speaker 2:Is there any shit ones? I'd just be sitting here listening because I haven't got anything bad so far. I know some of it's crap. Look at all these wedding rings that I bought. I got that one.
Speaker 1:How many wines you have. How do you do it? Is that right? From the robot you're going to have.
Speaker 2:Hey dude, don't make fun of the love robot. It's not cheating anyways. There's no feelings behind it. No talk about string. It's a big, big gap. What do you got for the second game?
Speaker 4:Second one is for the Xbox 360. This was Skyrim. Skyrim was amazing. The game before that was within the Elder Scrolls game, was oblivion, and that was awful. I didn't like that one. The Skyrim, the graphics again incredible. The scenery and just the options that you've got when you first start the game of, like, character creation, you know, like, makes me think of the wrestling games. For the character creation it's all that kind of stuff that you can just literally customize, right down to the nose, the eyes, the chin, everything. You can choose what kind of creature it is, if it's human, if it's a cat, there's all kinds of stuff you can do. And then it's a really long game, so it takes a long time to complete and you get to choose what you're going to do. You can become a sorcerer, you can become a warrior. There's so many different things you can do on it. And that's another game that I've completed. I think I've done that one twice because it's a lot longer than Red Dead Redemption. But yeah, skyrim is definitely my second choice.
Speaker 2:Well then, you have Skyrim when it came out, but then you had the updated version. That, like made it even look better than the first. Yeah, I got that one as well. It's a. I made it like halfway through because I call those winter games, you know, when there's nothing to do outside, yeah, you stay on there for like, and no kids bugging you. You know it's exactly. Yeah, you just like dip off into your own world and and I really like that game too and, like you said, man, there's beasts from all over the place and you don't know what to expect. You know, you know, like the big enemy or whatever the level is coming up, but yeah, because the music changes, and that's another thing.
Speaker 4:The soundtrack to that game is so beautiful. It's really really well done. Like even just I just like listening to that on Spotify, just the soundtrack to Skyrim, so good.
Speaker 2:Now, when you guys play games Gavin just mentioned about the music Do you guys pay attention to the music in the background or or do you just concentrate on what you know, what's?
Speaker 4:in front of you. I think it's hard not to concentrate, not to notice the music, because it's especially in these newer games, because it's proper music. It's not like Super Mario Brothers, where it's just like that, that, that that it's proper music, that's been composed.
Speaker 2:It's like the game fall out.
Speaker 5:And what I usually. I usually game with music on, like usually I mean the playing fighting games or wrestling games. I usually have music on.
Speaker 4:I'll just your own like personal music.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Now, like the wrestling games that are new they have, they're basically like a jukebox. They got over 90 songs on it for modern day artists, right, and they're like top hits, you know. So it's kind of weird to see them on a video game and some you're like man, why is it crap in here? You know, like I don't want to wrestle and hear hardcore rap. You know like, when, like the wrestling starts to turn the music off, I don't want to hear the whole song while I'm playing a game. You know, now I'm sound like a bitter old man.
Speaker 4:No, I agree with that. Like when I used to play the wrestling games, I'd always turn the music off because it's distracting and you want it to. You want it to be as real as possible. You want it to be like you're watching a wrestling match and you don't listen to music. While you're watching a wrestling match, you you're listening to the commentator and what's going on and the noise of that. You know the ring and stuff. You can't hear that there's a rock song going in the background.
Speaker 2:It's like Fallout 4. They have this radio on in the background and it plays like 1930s, 1940s music which I really love, and then like it goes into like a radio broadcast or talking, and like I'm listening to it listening Next thing I know I get killed because I'm paying too much attention to the music. So that that that sucked man.
Speaker 1:Did you recognize a song back in the 40s, when you were in high school, when you were playing?
Speaker 2:that game Seriously? Yeah, as a matter of fact, yes, I did, man, bob Crosby. What do you got, keith, for your second game, man?
Speaker 5:For my second game. I'm going back to 1983 with the Atari and the game you and I have actually talked about before, which was the Chuck Norris Super Kicks double ended video game with the artillery duel. And if you remember at all, in the Chuck Norris you you started out with just a punch and then you had to pass the level and then you got a punch and a kick. So by the time you beat the game you had the full arsenal of moves. So, and then we played more of the artillery duel, which was kind of like ants.
Speaker 5:Do you remember that game that came out called ants, where you'd like shoot the cannons, yeah, you put in the coordinates and like what, not like that? But yeah, that was. We probably spent more time playing that game. But the one I was more happy to beat definitely was the Chuck Norris because you know, like I said it was, you couldn't say, you couldn't save games, so you had to go all the way through it in order just to get the you know, the whole, the full range of his moves, and I think you got like a somersault and a kick and something like that. It wasn't that many but that's not serious here.
Speaker 2:Let's be serious with that game. Do you need anything more than a punch with Chuck Norris man? Oh you're right. Yeah, probably not. Just him walking on the screen. Everybody should like just lay down and died. A stern look would be enough, huh right when I was a kid.
Speaker 4:I used to get him confused with Bob Ross when I was a kid Nice, I don't know why. I used to just think do the same person.
Speaker 2:Chuck Ross Dude, now you got me thinking I'm going to try to picture, but like Bob Ross, with like a karate key on and a headband around the top of his fro, or or Chuck with the fro would be good.
Speaker 4:Yeah, hey you see Chuck Norris in the movie entered.
Speaker 2:It was, I think it's entered a dragon where he fights Bruce Lee and Chuck. Norris and he takes his top off and he got an F row on his chest.
Speaker 5:Yes, yes, the cat plays with the pop of his chest hair at one point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but Bruce is like, and he like just rips it off. Man, I'm like that's so gross, like you got many throws. But yeah, it's, that's definitely. I remember that. It's like no one ever played the other side of the game. But Chuck Norris the dual ended a tarry game, which I think that was a first of its kind. You know, like the normal tarry cartridges, they were like kind of small and you just put it in. But then the other one, the Chuck Norris one, you could just take it out, flip it and put the other side in, which is a completely different game.
Speaker 5:And we probably played artillery dual more, because my mom had actually pulled muscles in her neck playing Pacman. Wow, yeah, yeah, you know how you sit with the controller, like when they would get faster she would tense up like that, and when she turns up eventually she pulled muscles in her neck, wow.
Speaker 2:Mm, hmm, you know, it's just got to be the only person I've ever heard pull muscles playing Pacman.
Speaker 5:She's the first person you've heard doing probably a lot of things, bud, but that's a whole other podcast.
Speaker 1:Well, some people have seizures and stuff from the flashing lights.
Speaker 2:Oh right, there's another. Grind my gears. That just popped up in my head. Thanks, Jim.
Speaker 1:You don't like people having seizures.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know, like you're talking about with the flashing lights, and I'm thinking of, like when it's dark outside and you're driving to work and the police pull people over and the red and white lights are just constantly flashing. I mean, why don't we go in the seizure? They're not going to take credit for it. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:They're not going to be like Scott Power, shakes his fist at a cloud.
Speaker 2:How about you, Dave? What do you got for your second one?
Speaker 3:Zelda. The legend of Zelda the original.
Speaker 2:I beat that. That was a good game too. It was a good game, man.
Speaker 3:I remember sitting back with my friends eating pizza and stuff and just sitting there playing that for days on end. Finally, we just got to the last leg, danon or something and just you know, took them out and we're like, yeah, I was just pretty good.
Speaker 2:I thought I was the only one that did that like get that like victory yell when you beat a game. But now I've heard you say like 50 people in a room did it. Yeah, you did it, I did it, you know, on certain games. Zelda was a really good game. I think that was one of the first long playing games. That was really cool because, like you had hidden, like when he walked through a cemetery, you move like one of the headstones and then you go down the stairs or whatever, and they put so many like like secret rooms in Nintendo games that it was pretty cool. And if you're not paying attention you're missing out on a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3:I was like bombing like I always liked bombing, like you know, and making new doors and stuff, and being like, oh man, there's a bomb, I put a bomb here and I found this. So I don't know, I don't remember, in the original Could you actually just see where you could bomb, because in the newer ones that I've played you can actually see like the crack in the wall and you just put the bomb there.
Speaker 1:I don't remember that. I remember. I remember I'm not knowing which wall to bomb in the in the underground castle, so I would just put a bomb on each wall to see if I could get through there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I kind of remember doing that too, but like the SNES one it's actually. You can kind of see it on the screen. It's a little crack in the wall and just put a bomb and you just know it's there. Yeah, sort of cheapens it, but it's still good.
Speaker 2:It was definitely a fun game, and Zelda Enterprise has lasted a long time. They're still putting games out. The graphics nowadays for Zelda is like ridiculous. It's like watching a cartoon. If I had the Switch or Nintendo, I would definitely be still playing Zelda. How about you, jim?
Speaker 1:Is this the second one? Yeah, what Dave said earlier. Super Mario Brothers, I beat that one playing all the way through and then, after I beat it, then I found the warp levels and the different stuff and I got pissed because I'm like I could have did that the whole time.
Speaker 2:Now, how long did it take you to beat that game? Oh frickin.
Speaker 1:Me and my brother had to be about a couple of weeks or something because we had the game but we just kept playing, like back in the day you just play, play, play, play, play. You didn't do nothing else. So we were memorizing everything as we went through it.
Speaker 2:My question to you guys, because I know how I am. But when you guys beat a game, well, gavin says he's. He's jumped back in the Skyrim twice, red Dead three times. You guys play a game anymore. Do you just toss it aside?
Speaker 1:Oh, you mean play it through no, once you beat a game.
Speaker 2:Oh, you go back and try to beat it again.
Speaker 1:Or do you play it like just a little bit, then just throw or be done.
Speaker 2:Like for me, when I beat a game, I'm not going to play it again. I'm not going to be like I get bored in the second time. So I just like never play it again, or I race it off the Xbox and move on.
Speaker 4:To be honest, there's different ways of playing a game. So like like, for instance, like Red Dead Redemption, you can be a good cowboy or a bad cowboy. So more often than not, I'm a bad cowboy, so I'll go through it, I'll do, I'll get really bad on it, which affects how the game plays out. There's different outcomes for if you're good or if you're bad, so then I'll attempt to play it again and try and be a good cowboy, but it never, would never work. So I was halfway through me honest just goes down because I can't be doing. Plus, you get more money. If you kill certain people, you can get more gold. So, but your own level goes down and it's so tempting because you're like, if I give it to you there's, I'm going to get all that gold. So it all depends how you play the game a lot of the time and there's, like I say, there's so many different options. So that's my reason for wanting to play it again.
Speaker 4:And I normally leave it for about six months and then play it again. I don't play it like straight away, just enough for me to kind of forget what the first time was like, to pick it up again and do it again.
Speaker 2:Like when I beat GTA five, it took a long time to beat and the story was incredible. And then I beat it and I'm like it's the same story starting over again and like if I go back now and try to play, I'm lost. I don't know how to like do the moves, don't know how to shoot, no more. You know like I got to reteach myself the whole game again, but the story don't change and I just can't invest that time into that game that I beat already. But for me, my second game that I beat that I was really proud of is Contra the original Contra, and that was an awesome game. It was you and a guy and you get all these guns. My favorite gun was the spread gun the spread gun.
Speaker 2:And then you beat the game. And then you find out there's a code and it's up up, down down, left right, left, right, b A start and it gives you 50 lives and I'm like, well, that's more than enough to beat this game. And that's when they start really putting like game codes, in that you could start off the game with that many lives. But that came. I was really happy because at the first time I struggled until I found that those, all those lives, I don't know how you guys did. You guys a lot of people had Game Shark and you put the codes into the Game Shark and then you start off already as a badass. Yeah, you know, did you guys enter codes in when you got the game or did you try to play it out normal before Game Shark?
Speaker 4:I always put the codes in just to tempt them, like for, like the Grand Theft Auto games, you know those ones for the PlayStation 2. Like it was just too tempting, because there's like flying cars and stuff and it's like, well, I want to fly a car. Like I'm not, you know, so stuff like that, like I would, I'd be sensation was too much, so I'd just put the codes in.
Speaker 5:Yeah, actually the only one I'd say I used the codes for was probably the only one I knew. Codes for True.
Speaker 2:But you see, that's true. You should get your subscription to the magazine Right Right and then you would have got that code on page 32 in like the lower right hand corner. Not that I paid too much attention to that. But how about gas Last good?
Speaker 4:game. I don't even know who you guys have heard of this one. Now, first of all, the game system, like the console itself, was an Amiga 500. Did you guys get Amiga's in the state, in the States or even in Canada? It sounds familiar, but I'm not. It's like it was like a keyboard.
Speaker 2:I like our keyboard was like the Coleco vision.
Speaker 4:This be if you probably guys probably did you guys have Commodore like a Commodore 64? Hey, it's basically Amiga.
Speaker 2:Amiga played both Atari and Commodore games, coleco games didn't it?
Speaker 4:OK, yeah, I don't know, but it's basically the same thing, and there was a game for it called Chuck Rock. Do you guys remember that one?
Speaker 5:No, that sounds very familiar. Was he a caveman?
Speaker 4:Yeah, he's a little caveman. It's like the bad guy was like almost like an Elvis, like caveman, and he steals Chuck Rock's wife and he runs away with it.
Speaker 4:And then you've got to go for the kids so stupid. You've got to go through the game to try and find it and it was. It was amazing and I remember when I completed it and at the end there's like a little rock band that plays and he's I think he's in the rock band, chuck Rock, he's the lead singer maybe, and you just watch that them play as the credits roll and that was like your little treat for completing it. And then they came out with a second one called Chuck Rock, to Son of Chuck and it was little baby Chuck Rock, with a walk around with like a big piece of wood and he just hit the dinosaurs as he's go, goes through the level. So yeah, chuck Rock. For me Amazing, such violence.
Speaker 3:Were you on a tire, like in that game Was, were you like on a tire and like kind of jumping things?
Speaker 4:There was yeah, there was swings and stuff that you could get in. I remember specifically there was a tire in the, the second one you jump in.
Speaker 3:Oh, OK, that's the one I played then. Yeah, you guys should look it up, though.
Speaker 4:If you're not familiar with it, just type it on on YouTube and there's the whole games on there. You can just watch it being played. But it was funny, like one of his moves I mean he is he picked rocks up and throw them, which I think was where Chuck Rock came from. But another one was like he'd push his belly out, so like he'd walk up to a dinosaur and he pushes stomach out and his belly would hit the dinosaur and then knock the dinosaur out. So that was the attack. Yeah, it's a funny little game, that's what I'm thinking of.
Speaker 3:If it's the one I'm thinking of, it was really cool and I never even got close to beating it, and now I'm kind of feeling like. I'm back there.
Speaker 4:And music for those games back then, which obviously it was shit. But the theme tune to that one I can still think of it in my head. It's really catchy, catchy little tune.
Speaker 2:The only caveman game that I could think of off the top of my head is bonk, oh yeah. It's like the big man, it's like a big head caveman and I had butts, everything. It's just that's the only game I could think of. I have to check out this, chuck Rock.
Speaker 4:Yeah, check it out.
Speaker 2:Keith, what do you got for your third one man?
Speaker 5:For my third, one of my favorite all time games was a Nintendo boxing game called Ring King. Ok, ok, if you remember, it had like the three quarter view kind of over top and what I liked the most about the game was was just the feel of it. It had such a smooth feel, the way it went in and out and obviously you could do, whereas a lot of boxing games, if you remember, like the Atari boxing it just kind of like the heads over top in the two arms that came out and like that, but this one, like I said, has such a smooth feeling. Everybody, every character in that game kind of looked like Bob Ross, like what you were saying earlier but they were different versions of them.
Speaker 5:It was just like the, the bodies, and the the fro were rendered different colors. It was like you know, a yellow body with a red fro or a blue body with a white fro, and that game I remember beating. You had to go through basically every Bob Ross to get to the final one and then like a championship mode. But that game was, if I could play it to this, if I could find it somehow this day, I would play that game this day. I love that game so much.
Speaker 2:Dude, how about all of our tributes to Bob Ross? Like everything has to do with Bob Ross, like it's like the six degrees of Bob Right? Dude, scott's got the same one Beautiful. Well, me and Gav, we're in the Bob Ross fan club.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's because just very quickly, we we said to our co-host, me Scott, and was another guy called Craig. We said, right, you pick a guest, we're always trying to pick guests. You frigging pick one. And Craig said I'm not interested. And we said no, you've got to pick a guest on the next episode. You're going to tell us who the guest is. So he comes back on and he goes. Yeah, I think maybe we should try and reach out to Bob Ross. So me and Scott are sitting there like how are we going to tell him this? And I said, well, that might be a little bit tough. And he goes. Why? And Scott goes? Because he's been dead for like 23 years. Unlike, it was like this revelation Craig didn't realize that he died. Oh, I'm funny.
Speaker 3:What does I remember?
Speaker 1:that episode that's a little bit of a story Hold on, there's a time out.
Speaker 2:So he's written Kings, dave, how about you?
Speaker 3:Third game Uh, I want to say Grand Theft Auto 3 for the PlayStation 2. Three, that's Vice.
Speaker 4:City.
Speaker 3:No, just Grand.
Speaker 4:Theft Auto 3. No, that's not Vice City.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's when they changed it to like almost like a three dimensional.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was the first one Three day yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think you get an attack helicopter in that one too, but it's pretty cool. I remember beating that one and being like, oh my God, like I played it like every day for like months on end.
Speaker 4:That was a big game at the time, yeah.
Speaker 2:BTA pushed a lot of limits, you know, like taking hookers in the cars and give them their money. You see the car moving, but then you can kill the hooker and get your money back.
Speaker 4:Do you guys remember the first? It was Grand Theft Auto, san Andreas. There was a cheat code. I never, I never got the cheat code, but there was a cheat code, I think it was. It was called hot coffee and if you put that in, it was where you because you you'd have girlfriends on that game and you go on dates with these women on the game and if you put this cheat in you could have sex with the girl in a room and then you'd have control over your moves and my positions you do. It wasn't supposed to be. It wasn't supposed to be in the game. I guess some people hid it in there and they called it hot coffee because you were going in for a drink of hot coffee.
Speaker 4:Obviously, you know so you go in, yeah, and like I remember seeing like screenshots in like a game was my magazine and it was like bled out and just knowing, just knowing that it was a possibility that you could do that back then was like, oh man, how do you, how do you access that? Like I want to do that, can never figure out how to do it.
Speaker 2:It's like porn for kids back in the day.
Speaker 4:You know it's like that rumor of like a topless Laura Croft as well. Do you remember that one that was going around? Yeah, you could if you did something, you could get it with no top on and, like every teenage boy, was trying to figure out how to do it.
Speaker 1:You guys remember that PC game back in the 80s called Leisure Suit Larry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was just thinking of that. I was just thinking of that game.
Speaker 4:They still make those games? I think oh my God. You once.
Speaker 1:I guess when I was a kid I was like oh my God, you could have sex with girls and stuff.
Speaker 2:And yeah, he was like a dirty pervert and you have like options, right, you control what he says. And then it ended up in yeah, it's like Gavin said, they still do make those games. I think Xbox has one.
Speaker 4:Well, craig plays them. Like Craig loves the Leisure Suit Larry games and I remember saying to him like if you put this much effort into trying to get a real girlfriend as you're doing that fucking game, you do all right for yourself.
Speaker 2:Imagine him in like a jumpsuit In the cold chain in a bar. Brought this guy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this guy I worked for, he was like I don't know why he brought him these like old games that he had that he found in his basement. And he was like oh yeah, yeah, I remember playing this I'm playing the one of those Leisure Suit Larry and I was like dude, is your wife know how this ends? And he's like, nope, we're not going to tell her. Like I think it's so funny.
Speaker 2:You know as a kid which you're not supposed to be having that game. I think that's why they put like the age ages on now. But yeah, when that game came out on the computer it's like you don't want your mom and dad to walk in and be like what the you know? Because there's some like the scenarios that weren't meant for kids, definitely. But, jim, what do you got for your third one man?
Speaker 1:I couldn't think of any others that I like beat, but the sports one that I beat that I really got happy was Super Dodgeball for NES.
Speaker 2:Dodgeball on a video game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was like it was this one. Yes.
Speaker 2:Look at the pictures. That better than the game.
Speaker 1:No, it will head like like with all these different countries and you went around the world fighting, playing dodgeball with against all these like Canada, japan and all these other, and you had to beat everybody and everybody had like secret moves and stuff Like the ball. If the ball would do like a laser or a lightning bolt or go into three balls, into like to take someone out and just the the schoolyard kind of playing dodgeball and going around the country. And I won, I beat it and stuff. I beat it all the time when I played it but it was, it was the funnest one to beat.
Speaker 5:It was really fun. That was a really fun game.
Speaker 1:It was kind of like those ranking guys where they had the big heads and stuff and the little bodies and you had to get creative, I'd say. And when you, when you beat somebody, they died and they turned into a little mini angel and stuff and they would float to the top of the screen and just float away.
Speaker 2:So did they look like Bob Ross too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, they didn't really look like Bob Ross that much.
Speaker 5:If I only they did though.
Speaker 2:Bob Ross has his own video game console. It's like a secret. It's got it looks like an afro and you put the cartridge in the hair. That would be. That would be funny.
Speaker 2:So for my last one, dragon's Lair stand up arcade it's another one. It's the first game that looks like a cartoon. It came out oh man, I think it came out late 80s, early 90s. You play Duke the daring or dirt the daring or somebody like that. But the game like you had to control is when, like light flashes, you have to hurry up, smack the controller in the direction that the light is Super hard game. But when I finally beat it, and probably about two hundred dollars later, I felt great man. And then I got Dragon's Lair two out and I'm like no, I can't, can't, spend no more money on that.
Speaker 2:I definitely like basically lived in an arcade when I was little. My parents would always dump me off there just so they didn't have to watch me. Go figure, those are trying times back in the day. Honestly, you know your dad tells you hey, you know, when you first get to the mall you want to borrow some money to go play the arcade game. You'll play the arcade and they're like if you're not back at this time, you're walking home. Well, I tested it on and I ended up walking home. So a good eight miles is like a young teenager.
Speaker 5:Well, that's how it eight miles would be today.
Speaker 2:True, true man, all right. So, switching categories, we're going from good to the bad, like games that absolutely have pissed us off, whether it's blowing so much money and getting nowhere, or buying an expensive game system because you want to play that game, but then that game turns around and give you headaches and you just could not beat it. Let's, let's start with that one, gavin.
Speaker 4:Ok so this is a game that, like, I actually loved. This is probably one of my favorite video games and I think that's why I was so frustrated when I couldn't complete it, because I loved it so much and I wanted to see where the game went and I could never, I could never complete it. So the frustration levels are really high. So this was a video game based on the cartoon Captain Planet and the planet is, and if you guys know that like it was like big and big in like the early 90s, so they came out with a video game for it.
Speaker 4:What's that? Captain's? Yeah, yeah, yeah, awesome. So they came out of the video game for it and it was for the Amiga 500 again and I think I could get to like the third level and that was it. That's all I could do, but I was obsessed with it and even now, like I'll go on because all the games are on YouTube you can watch him like gameplay from start to finish of all the old games. So I've seen how it plays out and it just it really sort of doesn't sit well with me Knowing that I'd never got to do that Like and now I can't even find it to like download it online to play it Like. It's almost impossible to find. But yeah, I love that game so much I'm just almost in tears not being able to complete it.
Speaker 2:One day, one day, you're going to get it in the mail of the game, but what was?
Speaker 1:the premise.
Speaker 2:It's like, maybe what was the premise? It's like to clean up the toxicity of in the landfills.
Speaker 4:So every level. I assume there was like five, maybe six levels, because you know there's five planet years and then it's Captain Planet. I think you play him, play as him at the end. So the first level was a character called Wheeler and his power was fire. So you would, you'd go and burn stuff. That was like I can't even remember exactly what it was, but you'd use your ring, your magic ring, to basically shoot fire out at things and burn things down.
Speaker 4:The second level oh God, what was the second one? It was one of them where you're flying a little spaceship thing around and you had to help fix the holes in the ozone layer, those little things shooting holes up through the ozone layer. If only, if only it was that easy. And then you'd have to go and fix the ozone layer. And then the third level was a little character called Marty whose power was heart, which you never really understood, and little heart to come out of his ring, and you'd help plants grow, which then you'd climb up like vines to get up to the next stage, and the animals that needed to be healed, and you'd shoot your little heart ring at them and then you'd be healed. It was a cool. It was a cool game. It was, like you know, like some movie game, like games that are based on movies or TV shows. Sometimes I really shit, like the back to the future. One was basically Super Mario, which is ridiculous. This was a really good one, like based on the TV show I had to check that out.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Keith, what?
Speaker 2:do you got for your first bad one? It's from the Sega.
Speaker 5:Genesis. It's a motorcycle racing game called Super Hang on.
Speaker 2:Remember that one.
Speaker 4:I don't know, I don't know I was thinking a road rage game yeah, road rush, sorry, road rush yeah.
Speaker 5:It's kind of similar, but it was you're on, like, kind of like the Crotch Rocket motorcycle. And the reason why I didn't like the Crotch Rocket, I didn't like it and never got to finish because it just kept going on and on and on. And, like Gavin had said, they have the playthroughs on YouTube. While I watched the playthrough today, while at least fast forwarded through it today, the person who played through the game it took them four hours to play, to play through this game, just because in actually in the game it goes from day to night to day again and you're just still just riding on this motorcycle. And when I said we played hours and hours and hours, but it felt like we never, like we would quit the game before you would or you would lose. You know, I mean eventually you wouldn't make it through one of the checkpoints, but never, never, ever got to the end of it. And that was.
Speaker 2:Hang on, super Hang on. Yeah, and did you get to have like upgrades or motorcycle parts and or it was just the same motorcycle?
Speaker 5:You could I think you could like tweak your parts before you started. But once you started to race, and that was it, you didn't like. You didn't get any upgrades like mid, like after you completed a section or anything like that. Now it was the same bike. You know you race the same bikes and it was a fun game, like I said, as long as you could stand to keep, because it was cool to see the backgrounds change. But it was just, you never hit an end. They just would continually change and change and change.
Speaker 4:That's why it was called Hang on, because it was hang on hang on, don't quit.
Speaker 3:Hang on, you'll get there. Hang on.
Speaker 2:Hang on. What do you get for your first bad one, Dave?
Speaker 3:Oh man, mega man, the original Mega man. I would sit there with my buddies. We would play that all the time. We would try to get to like. You know how you get like. I don't know if you guys played it, but you have to beat certain bosses and then you get like their power and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:There's always one guy and I can't remember which one it was. You could never beat him and we didn't own the game. So we used to rent it right, Because, you know, and we'd have to be returning the game or we'd get, you know, late charges and stuff like that it was. We never got past this one boss to make it to the main boss. It was just like. Then I tried to pick it up like years later and I couldn't get past the first boss and I was like, let's stop, it's just fostered me to the point where I just put it down and can't do with this.
Speaker 2:Remember that going to the video store and having to rent the system for like 38 bucks and you get like two days and then you always rented these games that like take way longer than those two days. So you invest all this time, but it's time to go take the stupid thing back to the video store.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, if your parent would just tell you to save up those 30 bucks every time you're going to rent it, then you could buy the whole system and stuff.
Speaker 2:Right, but they never want to encourage you. You know you don't need to play that, it's just a fan. Video games are just a fad. What do you? Got Jim for your first one.
Speaker 1:It seems like I could beat it nowadays. I just haven't tried. Recently is the Legend of Zelda the original one? I would get almost right to the end and I couldn't beat it and I just get so mad and just we used to throw our controlers against the wall or something and then you just hear it rattling and stuff every next time you picked it up.
Speaker 2:How frustrating was it with the Nintendo and you'd have to like, pop the game out if it was just blink or whatever, and then you have to blow on it, slide it in real slow and snap it down. They were indestructible?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you can watch those videos like in YouTube and they show you how to fix it. Or like, fix the parts and the what is it called? When you bring it back to life it's like rotten and stuff. You could just like buy the parts and put it back together yourself and Kind of like refurbish it yourself.
Speaker 2:That's what it's called. All right, so you guys are going to laugh at this one. But I can't beat. I can't beat one level of Pac-Man. What Well, I mean? To me is one of the hardest games, and I own the cocktail system, you know, and I sit down every now and then just try to try to get it on, Miss Pac-Man. Yeah no, they're too fast for me, man.
Speaker 1:You mean you haven't been able to get all the power pellets and finish the finish a level?
Speaker 2:No, because I always grab the power pellets like quickly and what you haven't finished.
Speaker 4:One level is what you're saying. You can't fit it.
Speaker 1:Do you like have like a yeah, like have a panic attack or something and you just freak out you?
Speaker 2:can? I don't know, man, it's like I always, you know, like in the middle of the board you can go from one side of the screen to the other side, like they're always waiting for me, even though I try to like trick back.
Speaker 4:I thought you were saying you completed every level apart from just one level. I didn't realize you meant you can't just you can't even do one level, one single level.
Speaker 2:I can't, I can't beat.
Speaker 4:Right, ok, listen, that's we're going to. We are going to challenge you now to do.
Speaker 1:We're going to have an intervention.
Speaker 4:All of us would like you to try your very best to do one level on Pacman.
Speaker 2:I'll record it. Next episode. I said I got listeners. No, I got the, the sit down of, like the cocktails that you go to, like the pizza places. Yeah, yeah, and they have, like Miss Pacman, I got that here at my house, right.
Speaker 4:You've got to do it. That's got to know the next episode. Tell us how you got on.
Speaker 1:Even on on YouTube I've seen videos where people because Pacman's so old, they'll have videos of what path you take to beat it and stuff to stay away from the ghosts and that.
Speaker 2:You like my wife Karen. She just zips right through these levels and and it's even you, even put your like three initials on the thing and it's all her. You know Jesus, and that's my, that's my goal is to be P O W Up on the thing.
Speaker 1:When she beats a level, does she look at you and go man of the house? Yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 2:Thanks for rubbing that in, Jim. I thought we that was confidential. Who am I? I'm not.
Speaker 1:Number two Gavin.
Speaker 4:Yeah, gavin what do you get? So the second one for me is Sonic the Hedgehog 3, the third one. I did the second one minus you complete that one. So the first one I was never really I liked it but I was never really into it and I played the second one first. So you didn't get some of the things that you got on the second one. You didn't get on the first one so I didn't really have much interest in it. But when the third one came out there was the introduction of knuckles and you could get.
Speaker 4:There was another game called Sonic and knuckles which had a little top part. You'd open that and you could plug Sonic 3 into that and then you'd be able to play as knuckles on Sonic 3. It's quite cool really and I could never complete that game. I think I could get maybe five levels. I think it was into it and I just after that. It was just too difficult, I couldn't do it and of course you couldn't save the games back then. So there was just no. If we could save the games it would have been a little bit easier, but there's just no way down it. So fortunately never they complete Sonic 3.
Speaker 2:Now, do you ever you guys ever like think about those games? You know when we're not talking about the video games, but is there times where you're like I wonder if I could beat that game now, because we could beat modern day games. So why can't we beat those eight big games that are like exactly, yeah, like sometimes I'll sit there and I'm like man, if I could find the stand up arcade, if I can play this game, you know, and my, my big one is for Atari is Indiana Jones and Raiders of the Lost Ark, that's, that's my all time like Nemesis, since I was a little kid. Keith, what do you got for your second ones?
Speaker 5:For my second one, I have the who Framed Roger Rabbit video game per the Nintendo system.
Speaker 2:What do you do?
Speaker 5:on that, that game. Actually I'm pretty sure you're supposed to eventually locate Jessica Rabbit. But the game is so difficult that it's like you and Roger and Eddie you go from like building to building and a lot of times you go in the building and in everyone you talk to they'll tell you I can't help you. And you go to the next person and they say I can't help you. And it's so frustrating and eventually you run in, you find the car. I don't remember what the name of the car was, but that was kind of fun.
Speaker 5:What's the car's name?
Speaker 4:I thought I can't, Benny.
Speaker 5:OK, Benny, the car, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ok, and that was kind of fun because you could actually like cruise around in the car and eventually I got really good at driving the car. But I never got anywhere at all in the video game because even sometimes it would tell you, OK, we'll search this building, and then you'd go and you'd give you something like completely useless, and then every other person in the building would tell you I can't help you. So it was like I never got any kind of like any kind of distance or any kind of progress in that game and then because of the rental thing, you know, I mean you would have to take it back.
Speaker 5:So it was like I ran in it probably three or four times because I did enjoy playing it, you know, and eventually when you get in the car and all that, it was fun. But man, it was like I never I don't remember ever getting anywhere, you know, much further in that game other than just going into these buildings. And I guess eventually you got to Toontown. That was pretty fun, but it was like again, it was kind of the same thing. You know, it was just you run and then the weasels would chase you at some point, yeah.
Speaker 4:I remember that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, the weasels yeah.
Speaker 1:Keith, maybe you should have played Chuck Rock and that Elvis caveman. Maybe he took her.
Speaker 2:Hey, it could have been Leisure Suit Larry too.
Speaker 1:Bob Ross is making out with her. He's paid nerd stuff.
Speaker 4:He's beating the devil out of it. Oh, that's the light of the day.
Speaker 1:That's awesome.
Speaker 2:How about you? What do you got for your second one?
Speaker 3:I don't know if you guys ever, if you guys beat it, it would be awesome just to hear the ending, but like it's ragged an age for a PlayStation, I don't know if you guys even played that Like.
Speaker 2:I heard of it.
Speaker 3:Isn't there three of them? You could play as three different. Yeah, I think there is three different games, but the original Dragon Age you could play as like three different characters, like a warrior, maybe there's a more three but you were different, like different characters, your major warriors, stuff like that. My biggest issue with that game is really good is like the storyline was pretty good and stuff. I get to a certain point and I put it down for a little bit and then I pick it up again. I'm like, ok, I'm going to beat this game, but I forgot the storyline. I mean. So now I'm like, yeah, what was it doing? Where was I like? And I just ended up wandering around and I just get tired of it and put it down. It's faster.
Speaker 2:Well, no, I remember the game. I don't remember the game play, but I mean a lot of people back in the day were like Raven over that game. You know a lot of people played it. And then I just I've never played, I've always seen like videos of it, but that was it.
Speaker 3:Look, it's pretty good game. I like the one thing that was a golem and you could like you kind of added to your team members, like kind of like Final Fantasy almost, and like there was one this really powerful guy with a golem. I always got to the part where I could get him and then he was, like you know, beating up everybody for me. But I never made it past that and I always wondered whether there was an actual dragon you were supposed to play, because it sort of seemed like there was and I was like I've never seen the ending, I've never, like you know, anybody or anything like that. But I was always like there's got to be a dragon.
Speaker 3:I want to find a dragon. Or never got through. Check it out on YouTube. Yeah, maybe I'd like to be the guy that gets there.
Speaker 2:Right, right. It's like my little brother. He'd rather watch people play a game than play the game. And he's like oh, I like this game. I'm like, why don't you play it? And he's like but I'm watching them play it. And I'm like stupidest thing I ever heard these kids. But do they? It drives me up the wall. I'm like you got the Xbox. I bought the game for you. But yeah, you're watching people play the game. Why aren't you? He's like I don't have the time. I'm like it's got nothing but time. It's. But, jim, what do you got for the second?
Speaker 1:Mine would be the NES Metroid.
Speaker 2:Oh, the original, huh yeah.
Speaker 1:Were you just high, you're high, stepping and stuff and just trying to shoot everything, and I would get so far. You know, I didn't know where the map was or anything. I had to memorize everything and I just got so lost. I would just say, forget it. And then of course, you have to start over and then go through all that again and then you forget something. And it was just and I'd see pictures on the Nintendo magazine and stuff of Mother Brain and stuff, when it was a, was a, someone was beating it and I'm like I can't even get there. I don't know, I give up.
Speaker 5:And if you got with without the proper amount of missiles, you couldn't beat it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Didn't they announce, like a few years, not too long ago, but probably about 10 years ago that Samus, who's the head character of Metroid? Didn't they say that that was a female?
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was a code to back in the day. Yeah, if you put a code in the beginning, because it did have codes and there was a code where you would start as her and she was in a different, with her green hair or something, and you could play with her- Huh, well, she takes the helmet off at the end of the game.
Speaker 5:Right, if you beat the game, she takes the helmet off and yeah that's a female.
Speaker 2:Oh, I obviously didn't beat that game either because I didn't know there was an ending on it. So for my second game would be Top Gun. You know, really cool game. It's a lot of fighting, you know in in, of course, playing versus playing. Then you have to refuel in the air. But the thing that kicked, but the thing that kicked my ass, was the landing on the aircraft carrier. So you accomplish a whole level and you've gone through hell, you know, to get there, and then it's time to land and it even says like slow down, slow down, speed up, speed up. And dude, I destroyed my airplane every single time and I love the game, but obviously I couldn't land. You know like that was so frustrating I never beat the game.
Speaker 1:Where you say I think I got this and then, okay, I got it perfectly. And then it showed you landing and you just zoom right past it or something.
Speaker 2:Right, right, or you hit like kamikaze it and blow up on the deck. You know, but Top Gun is definitely one of my my games that I think about like hey, could I beat that now? You know, because there's so many airplane fighting games nowadays no chance Right right, I can't make it through a damn. Can't eat the pellets. What made something I could fly? Is there a volleyball level?
Speaker 5:in that game.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, I never made it that far. After was yeah, that's definitely one of my, my games in my head that I'm like I just see like the little hose coming down and you got to, like, line the airplane up to get refilled. That was hard enough and then, like I said, the land, that was it for me. Yeah, third one for you.
Speaker 4:Third one for me again is the Amiga 500, but versus the Space Mutants, the Simpsons game that was so tough to beat. It was a great game but again I could only get like three levels in because it was really difficult, like, and you just for little kids, it's so. It's so tough to do. What do you? What do you? Got to?
Speaker 2:do in that Obviously you go against the aliens, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:So, like little Space Mutants, come down and they hide themselves like they disguise themselves as different things, like humans. So you put these like X-ray glasses on and when you've got the glasses on you can see if it's an alien or if it's a human, and then, if it's an alien, you jump on the head to kill the alien and they turn things that are red into purple. So you've got to go around with a kind of red spray paint and spray paint everything that's purple, everything. And one of the things is I remember this was a really cool bit Mo from Mo's Tavern, his apron, his apron was purple but it was supposed to be red. So you'd have to get on the phone, call him up to one of your prank phone calls to get him annoyed to come outside to chase you, and then, as he's chasing you, you spray him and turns apron back to red again. There's just little things like that.
Speaker 2:You know the Simpson games. They were pretty good, Like they had the four ways stand up arcade and arcade was amazing.
Speaker 4:The arcade one I'd love. I'd love a version of that in me home. You know like you can buy them. You were saying earlier you can buy them. I'd love a simp. Yeah, they got that at Best Buy. I know that. Yeah, yeah, they've got it at Toys R Us over here and it's amazing. It's like dude. That's a touch of the subject.
Speaker 2:They got toys in Canada but we got like, we got them back, they're back here but they're inside Macy's in like store but you only get like one aisle of just toys that are meant really for little kids, like stuffed animal crap. Yeah, that's a. Yeah, that's touch subject, man, because I love Toys R Us back in the day.
Speaker 3:I went to Toys R Us out here the other day I was like look, it's funny, because I was actually looking for video games stuff and it's all gone. And I was like this used to have a huge view. You know why it's gone? No, you know why it's gone.
Speaker 4:I'll tell you right now why it's gone. Because toys are. They've acquired HMV, so they've gotten rid of a load of stuff. Because I went into our toys there wasn't again. There's like four sections that are completely empty and I'm like what the hell's going on? It turns out that it's HMV, so they're going to be putting stuff in. I don't know what that entails, but I think it's going to be all the like. You know like if you go to a music store now, you can buy like nerdy stuff.
Speaker 4:I think it's going to be all that kind of stuff in Toys R Us that you can buy, but it's under the name HMV. Oh, okay, so I think that's what they're doing where you are, because they're doing it here. So it must be like a, you know, a nationwide thing.
Speaker 2:So HMV is Canadian.
Speaker 4:I don't know if it's Canadian, because we had it in the UK. It's just a music store, see we don't have that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got FYE.
Speaker 4:Yeah, your entertainment, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah so.
Speaker 4:I like that.
Speaker 2:I think I went to HMV at the MacMaw, was that?
Speaker 4:possibly it's gone now, but it may have been here when you came over the first time, maybe.
Speaker 2:Yeah so, but I like those stores like that. They were fun to go in, but then they all like everything's like that starts disappearing. And yeah, it's like they're taking away all the fun stuff for adults, then, and yeah, yeah. So where am I at? I'm lost here, keith, right, yes?
Speaker 5:For my third one I picked I believe it was for the Nintendo system. It was the Three Stooges video game. I'm a huge, huge, lifelong Three Stooges fan. I have been since since I remember seeing television really, you know, watching comedy classics every night. It used to be, I used to be able to get two of the three shorts and because my dad worked second shift, I used to get two of them in before he'd come home and I'd act like I was asleep.
Speaker 5:But they had a video game came out and it was a fun game. But, man, it was just so difficult to play and they had a bunch of mini games in it, like one was where Curly was in the boxing match and you were Larry with Bob Ross, like fro, and you had to run through the Strativarius and make it back to the boxing match in time. And then the one that always gave me the most trouble was you were Curly and you had to eat the oyster crackers before the oysters would snap them. Man, that was always so dead, that was always so difficult to get through. I never got that and you're supposed to, I think, get money to rescue kids from an orphanage.
Speaker 5:And I never beat that game. I always wanted to, because I always wanted to see what the end was like, because I just love the three stooches. But they did have a cool couple cool middle levels, where one of them was you. Just, basically you were Moe standing in between Larry and Curly and you did his thing where you either smacked him or did the Ipope or you hit him in the belly and you got like bonus points because of that.
Speaker 1:Yeah use.
Speaker 2:How was the graphics?
Speaker 5:It was OK, it wasn't bad, but it looked kind of like I don't know it did. The cut scenes was. The graphics were pretty good considering the times. Was it like still pictures, kind of a little bit, but they were almost like kind of halfway between the three stooches cartoon, if you remember that you know, yeah, the Bionic.
Speaker 5:And then yeah, and then something like the kind of their, their real version, so it was like a little shorter, like squatty versions of them. You know, I mean it wasn't bad, especially, like I said, for the time it was really fun to play. You know, especially love them so much. And the opening screen when you'd first put the cartridge in Ghostbusters 2 was coming out at the time, so it actually had the logo for the Ghostbusters 2. And then Moe, larry and Curly walk out and then Moe, they would like insult the screen and then they go to their three stooches screen and be like all right, this is more like it. That was stuff that was funny.
Speaker 4:But nice.
Speaker 2:I have to check that out because I love stooches as well, me too.
Speaker 5:And another one of the levels was they would race through the hospital. Have you ever seen like the hospital where, where they were the doctors? Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that one, yeah, that one's. That was a fun level. That's my dad's probably favorite ever three stooches moment where Larry grabs the stethoscope. You know that. Or he's like boo, boo, boo, go talking about.
Speaker 2:That's great. So back to Dave, number three.
Speaker 3:Well, this one's got a bit of a story. So, ok, I bought my wife one of those Nintendo DS's and they came out with this, the new Super Mario Brothers. I don't know if you guys ever played that. It was pretty cool little game and you could like they get had to like mushrooms. It would make you grow really big and then like ones that would make you really small and had all these great. It was a lot like the original Mario Brothers but it was like the gameplay was a lot like the mental Mario Brothers, but just almost like Mario three added in there. Really cool. So we have to like I don't know, maybe she had it for like two days, I think and beat it and I popped it into my DS. Two months later she turns the nooks at me and she's like well, I'm going to help you finish that. I could not beat that game. Oh, I couldn't even get past like both two I don't know what like so hard.
Speaker 2:Mario's in like a lot of more things than we. We remember, like he's in Donkey Kong. He's in like he's everywhere, and the original was just Mario Brothers with him and Luigi and you have to break down walls, and but then I think Mario's still being made to this day.
Speaker 4:Yes, my son, my son, charlie's got a Nintendo switch and he's got the Mario Court eight and he's got the latest Mario games you call Mario wonder. It is incredible. It's really cool. It's it's the same, you know, it's like the same as the original Mario game, but it's like modern day graphics. You can do so much stuff on it. You can turn into an elephant and you got it's all the classic powers that you used to have and you can choose different characters to play through. And it's really cool. And again, it's more, you can choose which path you want to go down. You can just complete the levels quickly. You can. You can complete them slower and do all the little mini tasks in between. There's so many little hidden gems. It's really cool. And then the Mario Kart game. I mean, who doesn't love Mario Kart? Every single one you've ever done has been, in my opinion, fantastic, but this latest one is really cool.
Speaker 2:See, I was going to ask you guys like for games like Mario or Halo or Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed, who they keep putting games out, maybe once or twice a year A new game. Do you think it's overkill on the on the name, or does it take away from the?
Speaker 4:classics. I don't think it takes away from the classics, no, I mean it's. It's there if you want it. If you don't, then don't play it.
Speaker 2:I would say because I was thinking, like, like the new Mario, the graphics are amazing, like you said, you know, but then you go to Super Mario for, like, kids Playing Super Mario for the first time today, like, if Charlie played it, will he get bored? You know, because it's not the same thing.
Speaker 4:It's, it's now he doesn't. You know, I thought that as well, but when we got his switch it came with like three months free of like the Nintendo store or something and it allows you to play a big selection of like SNES games and NES games. So he's playing all the original Mario's and stuff. He's not complained about it and I thought having the latest one and then being able to go back to the first one he's not really going to buy into it, but he does. It's like he doesn't notice that it hasn't twigged with him that the graphics are different. He just sees it as another Mario game. So he actually enjoys. I think it's Mario 3. He really enjoys playing, yeah.
Speaker 4:I mean that might just be him now. But yeah, he enjoys it. But what?
Speaker 2:were you saying Jim?
Speaker 1:I think with the video game industry, because you notice that they pretty much hit a plateau where they have to make something. They're trying to come out with new stuff to top the old systems and that they probably think, well, what games can we make? And we've done so much? Just make another Mario game, just make another. And they're just keep making another Mario game and they have to come up with something. It's like the movie industry where they just keep making copies of the same old 80s and 90s movies. Maybe they they're at a plateau with video games. They don't know what to do, to make, so they're waiting for someone to make something new, while they just keep putting out Mario stuff and it's like the wrestling games, I guess, like a new one every year, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean if it weren't for people like Keith who take all this time and create new players, like the new video, the new wrestling game coming out this March March 8th has over 254 wrestlers before you even had to create a players on, you know, on the roster it's like holy cow. I meant, do you need that many?
Speaker 1:Not to mention video games, are competing with the Internet and virtual reality games, and it's really they've got to start. They got to think of something to pick up the new generation and because the older one is not going to be buying as they used to.
Speaker 2:You know that's a whole other story with the virtual reality games. You know, I got turntables. I never learned how to use because I just don't have time. But unlike the Oculus or the meta to, I bought a program to learn how to DJ and it puts my, my turntables in front and like it's whatever's there is really on the actual thing. So as it's teaching you, it's like class, you know, and it's virtual reality. It just gets me sometimes.
Speaker 4:It's funny that you mentioned the Oculus because, like, that reminds me of like when, when Scott face got his Oculus and he was part of our podcast, major Metal, and we used to share the email, which is major what is it? Major Metal, like Yahoocom, and we used to share it, and so Scott used that email to like, sign up for the online stuff the Oculus and like whenever obviously Scott's no longer like a host on my podcast, he comes on every now and then, so he doesn't have access to the email anymore, but I still get all the email receipts. So every time Scott buys a game, I get the email receipts and he's not getting the receipts. So I screenshot and I'm going to send them and he goes yeah, yeah, I know that and I don't know how to fix it and I'm like I know, I'm just giving you your receipts just in case you need it.
Speaker 2:Hey, they have, you know, like they got Apple vision out now and it's 3500 bucks and is it really worth it? You know I was going to try them out as store but the line was too long. But as far as like the Oculus to, we have two and three here. I never tried to three yet, but like when I'm stressed at work, I put on the VR and I can go to like anywhere in the world, like a beach or if I want, and you can watch the water rolling in and you can hear the birds, you can see people walking around and after a while your mind starts thinking is this, is this stuff real? Is this really going on?
Speaker 4:Yeah, what would be cool is if you could and they'll probably do it one day if you could put this stuff on and then go to like an old 80s style arcade and actually play these old games you've just talked about.
Speaker 2:That would be cool, and it would be. You actually have to have virtual quarters. They put them in the machine and then you run out and get pissed off and then there's a virtual Scott's dad that you can go to and say let's never run out.
Speaker 4:Can you give me $150? It's got to be in for another 200.
Speaker 1:You could have somebody virtually trying to bug you to play next, Come on. I want to play next, Come on. And then someone's trying to pick your pocket while you're playing.
Speaker 2:While you're playing it's like like like the Oculus three Again I have it, I just never tried it. But say like if you're playing chess, you could sit in like a room like your kitchen and you could see your kitchen playing his day and the chessboard will be on like your counter and you, it actually tracks your hands and you can move the pieces around and the computer standing in front of you playing chess back with you in your own kitchen. It's really weird, man, it's. It's that will be strange. Or like if you, if you guys had to Oculus, then I could meet up with you guys in like the theater and we can watch movies and you can see each other. You know your avatars, they're making them. So it's like really you, you know your face, your body.
Speaker 2:But the technology with video games nowadays is getting like really crazy and I'm surprised somebody hasn't had a heart attack yet. You know, because again I was in the ocean swimming in the Oculus and you can turn around, look and move around and you see a shadow in the distance and it's getting closer and closer and you realize it's a freaking great white shark coming at you. In your heart starts jumping and it's are sweating for real and they're like oh, you try. Like that, I got to take the crap off man because it's real.
Speaker 1:I thought it was the Pac-Man ghost, inky and blinky coming after you, and stuff.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it could have been.
Speaker 2:It could have been. Here they come. What do you got for your third one, Jim? I keep always straight off, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I got Mega man 2 for NES. The game had more, more stages, more enemies, they had eight bosses instead of six and I just couldn't beat it. And I was so angry because I'm like they improved it from the first Mega man, but it was just I couldn't get it.
Speaker 2:Well, the graphics were a little different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the sprites or whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can't. I tried playing, like like Dave said, I tried playing the Mega man now and I can't. Man, I suck at it. So why are games that should be easy to beat again because you could beat the modern day games why can't we beat these old games Like we're smarter than we were when we were a kid? You know, I don't know about.
Speaker 4:I don't know. I don't know if there's any truth in this, but I almost feel like we're just not as good as we used to be. Yeah, I think maybe as we get older we're just not as quick. Maybe I don't know, but I feel like I played better when I was a kid, those older games, not the newer ones, but the older games. I feel like I can't play them as well as I used to.
Speaker 2:You think as we grow older, our reflexes slow down. Like me, they're damn standstill. It's just, I don't know they, they aggravate me that I can't beat these games.
Speaker 1:Well, plus, you only have three lives, or maybe one life back then and then, compared to nowadays, you can save any point or get a million lives, but back then. And then you play it now. You play it old game now and you're like, well crap, there's no way I could get this with just three lives, or something.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the determination. I don't think is there like it was when we were kids, no, so determined to do it because you were aware you only have three lives, whereas now it's like man, I'm an adult, now I can play adult games. Forget this. Like you know, it's something. Yeah, it's in.
Speaker 2:I think it's like the determination. I think it's also you want to be the first of all your friends to beat the game. So you have break it right.
Speaker 4:So it was definitely a peer pressure, that definitely.
Speaker 1:And we didn't know the concept of time, because me and my brother would play, like a summer or a month or something, a certain video game trying to beat it. But nowadays we're all adults and we, like you know, I got stuff to do. I got tons of stuff I could be doing right now.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I agree with that. You know, like, like games like Skyrim and all that. If we were younger back in the day when there's no work, there's no, you know like not worrying about bills and all that In them, games would have been really amazed. More amazing, I think. But then there's some games like like the new one that came out in August, a Starfield, and the game's supposed to take over 13 real years to beat it's. You can explore over a thousand planets. They really melt it out and they timed it to about 13.
Speaker 2:Like I started playing.
Speaker 4:I'm sick of this one we live on, never mind another fucking thousand.
Speaker 1:I got a nine year old saying dad, dad, dad, dad, dad, there's no, I can't do it Dad.
Speaker 2:I think I played like a month straight and on the weekends it got really bad because I'd start like Friday evening and next thing you know it's Sunday and I'm still playing the game. Yeah, it's really bad, but it just came. Sometimes games become so reputious that you don't want to even try beating. You know like, oh great, it's going to be this like Assassin's Creed one. You know you didn't have like all these places where you could fast like travel. You actually had to walk. You know, yeah, on like these huge maps and I'm not, I've never, I've never known.
Speaker 4:I've never known a game franchise and we were sort of like Mario and being so many different Mario games. A lot of them are different, but I've never known a game franchise like Assassin's Creed to milk it as much as they do. Every fucking game is the same thing every single time. It's just a different storyline, but it's the same gameplay every time. They just keep milking it and people keep buying it and it's fantastic but like I won't buy it anymore because it's the same shit.
Speaker 2:It's. It's like the wrestling games, you know, like same characters. They just look way better now. You know, like back in the day you'd see a marching like Hitler, you know, across the screen and now they're like so fluent they bleed their, their makeup.
Speaker 1:Their face comes off.
Speaker 2:And like this new one coming up. They added like a few things like casket matches, ambulance matches. They're tweaking it every year and it's like NBA 2K. It looks like you're watching TV, you know, and I'm like man, how much more real can these games get? So I'm thinking soon we'll be able to like watch TV and control how things go. You know what's your third game, scott?
Speaker 1:Thanks, what's your third game?
Speaker 2:It's a.
Speaker 1:It's a series of games.
Speaker 2:It's a, it's a stand up arcade. You could be a wizard, you could be a elf, you could be a warrior or a Valkyrie, and it's like a top view and like all these ghosts are coming at you and you start losing energy. So you have to eat the chicken dinner and then you have to find the exit in the maze and then you go like a toilet bowl and you go down. I can't beat that game. And I thought, well, maybe if I bought it at home I could beat the game. You know like you can buy an Xbox now, yes, you can't beat the stupid game, man, and I think there's three gauntlets now, four gauntlets, and then they stopped. So that's my third one. Man, I cannot beat that game.
Speaker 4:It sounds like Golden Axe, a little bit like it's actually from above.
Speaker 2:It's like you know it's like the side view gauntlet or golden access is good and you have to wait till the elves bring you to little vases and and yeah, there's a chicken dinner as well on that one.
Speaker 4:That's what made me think of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so Well, yeah, you don't see like you only see what they look like in the picture, of course. You don't see like you just see hats moving or heads, top of heads moving.
Speaker 1:I think we learn. I think we learned today that your biggest fears are any game with ghosts in it.
Speaker 2:See, it's like an intervention. So the next time we all meet I will try to have accomplished beating one level of Pac-Man. Yeah, you've got to, I will. I will record it. It's like going to a, you know we want to see that little how.
Speaker 4:We want to see how in the in the shot.
Speaker 2:But hey, speaking of like that, how frustrated were you back in the day, like when you beat like a standup arcade, or you got like a good score and then you're on a time limit to put in those three initials and so you get like one or two and then it's like game over, it's like oh, my initials.
Speaker 4:My initials always became a, a, a, but never be bothered.
Speaker 2:And then you can't even have bragging rights to your friends, like, yeah, I'm on that list, straight there. And then they're like, yeah, it's just as PAA, hey, so, hey. But that concludes my video game talk and I really appreciate you guys, as always, jumping on with us and and just having fun and reminiscing about old days, and I appreciate all you guys. Again, you could check out Keith at Letter Kenny on X Wrestling. He makes some amazing wrestlers, and you could. He's on the Xbox one and he's on the PS five more PS five than the Xbox, because he's a PS five owner, right, four owner, he's four, actually, yeah. So, but check his stuff out. Where are you on there? Like where can people find you on the video game, since that's some weird tagline on Xbox?
Speaker 5:If you hashtag Letter Kenny and you type in there's our stuff and there's one other guy's stuff, and I think you're going to notice the difference, so that's that's where I would be. I actually don't know, because they changed it to a bunch of numbers and shit, so I don't know. It was oops. I'm sorry, the only customer in the whole podcast. I'm sorry. No, no, no, kevin.
Speaker 2:Kevin got you beat. Oh, did he. Ok, all right.
Speaker 5:All right, but yeah under there, let it, or under Backbreaker Wrestling, or even, oh, let's see, there was one other one, I can't remember. But yeah, mostly if you hashtag Letter Kenny or hashtag Shorzy, that's will be under that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so again, I appreciate people like Keith because it used to take me hours and days to make people. So, keith, he does it for me. I just download everything that he he makes. And, yeah, check it stuff out, gavin, you could check his podcast out man, over eight years now. Yeah, major's Mess Hall got some amazing guests on from like music industry, from the TV industry, from the movie industry really spectacular, really good stuff. Again, you could check that out. Every single like place that you have listening platforms you could find it there. As Gavin would say, like shit in a cow field, it's just everywhere. So check it out and give for like Twitter or Facebook, any yeah, you can follow me on Twitter and it's Gavin Thomas 2015.
Speaker 4:Right, and how about the podcast is?
Speaker 2:the podcast is outmaged mass hall on Twitter and there you go and then you got Dave, dave, dave, I'm not sure like he started running. You just ran your first half marathon not too long ago, right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was about a couple of months back, amazing.
Speaker 4:Congratulations. That's all Good job.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm trying to run a full marathon and see if I can do it.
Speaker 2:Dude, I can't run a block, so anything over that is amazing. And I know you're out there hiking with the steel plates in the backpack and and you're like getting it done. And yeah, we had some fun. We have fun conversations online and and Jim is always you could. You could talk to Jim through powers point podcast at Yahoocom Not that people can be attested to this. When you want people to like, leave reviews or or like you have a celebrity on and you're hoping that they plug you and then they don't plug you, it's so frustrating when you ask listeners to do stuff and yeah, nothing really is, but we will talk to you all later. And again, you can go to an X for podcast Scott and if you got anything to say, or Instagram is powers 3191. I got locked out of my powers point Facebook page.
Speaker 4:So because it's attached to the old.
Speaker 2:It was attached to the other page, so it's yeah, so I have to start a whole new, whole new one. I just hate asking people to follow me, you know, after they've already been following you, and then it's like it's like frustrating, it'd be crazy. But no, guys, I really do appreciate your time and, dave, I appreciate this topic. I want to get you guys back on and we could do like a slapstick comedy, because it's always fun to talk about that.
Speaker 5:That would be great, definitely so.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to finish up. So that whole, that whole talk was like just before, like a commercial time. But, jim, before we leave, yeah, you got a quote for the week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, video game. Quote from Super Mario Brothers, the NES version. Thank you, mario, but our princess is in the other castle.
Speaker 2:That's one heck of a quote. So from the Powers Point podcast, majors Mess Hall, keith, dave, you guys have a good one and we'll talk to you later. Thanks, scott, bye. Thank you, bye, have a good one. Later guys. Bye.
Speaker 5:Bye.
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